The mounts not being in the game isnt the end of the world, however it shows that they are catering to the casuals and god knows whats in store for us to come.
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Thatâs the most concerning part to me. They have said they will be leaving things in to make it the most authentic experience they can as long as it doesnât have an effect on gameplay, yet this, which doesnât affect gameplay, is being changed. It seems arbitrarily selective.
For instance, they are leaving in the fact that some quest turn ins show up as a dot, and others later show up as a â?â because thatâs authentic. Which, honestly, is great imo. Why, then, is there an exception made for something else that would have been authentic if left alone, and that doesnât affect game play?
That said, the fact that weâre concerned about this now, rather than concerns over implementation of a cash store or something else egregious like we were a few months ago⌠at least that means they are doing a pretty damn good job. I just wish theyâd be internally consistent.
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Was having a discussion with my brother last night, and he brought up a good point. He brought up gymâs and their memberships, a gymâs business model isnât built to get more people fit, thatâs just the face or the shell.
A gym loses money when their customers use their equipment, open the front door and let AC out of the building, swim in their pool etc. Theyâll have a facade, be friendly and make you think they want you to come back. Theyâll promote their gymâs trainers and other incentives to get you to buy more things.
A gymâs most lucrative customer is the customer that showâs up for 2 weeks, then never shows up again but forgets to cancel their membership, or keeps it because they believe theyâll get back to it.
In my opinion, this applies here as well. The neck beard is the customer that shows up daily, uses the equipment the hardest, and longest. Theyâve tailored the game towards the casual, because they are the most lucrative.
The difference is, unlike a gym that has a lot of healthy people showing up daily, with a plethora of equipment to choose from. The game, is more like a gym filled with unhealthy people that show up hit a machine and get a coupon for a cheeseburger afterwards.(I love cheeseburgers)
This ended up being longer than I wanted but w/e
TLDR
Neckbeards that obtain prestige rewards like HWL, or unarmored mounts arenât the most lucrative customer. Even though I would argue players that obtain these things drive others to get them as well, which is its own value in its own right.
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The accuracy of that analogy is wonderful.
That said, working off of that logic, I think completely removing the mount is not a sound monetary investment. Thereâs really just three scenarios:
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The mount gets left in, and removed at a certain patch. In this case the neckbeards ( I include myself in this group
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) are going to grind hard and get the mount before itâs removed, and it will be arbitrarily worthwhile because of that. This will be classic, but leave the casual players no way to obtain it. -
They donât put the mount in at all. No one gets the mount. None of the people playing classic for the first time realize they are missing anything, and the old school players will grumble and be glad that thereâs no cash store, we guess. But more importantly, the game now lacks something for people to spend time on.
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They include the mount and donât remove it at a later date. This does two things. It leaves in the classic mount, making the game more intact than not including it AND it gives players something to work towards. I remember the first time I saw a Night Elf on a rocket chicken or whatever gnome mounts were called, or seeing a Tauren on a skeletal warhorse. It was crazy. I had never thought about it being possible, but suddenly I was spending a lot of time grinding reputation for no other reason than I wanted to be on a certain mount.
TL;DR Blizzard, leaving the mounts out does not increase subscriptions, but leaving them in absolutely will.
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Possibly. Bump.
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IMO, this would be ideal, AND is the current reason they are not putting them in. Let me argue against again⌠What kind of player, isnât going to be riding a 100% mount in 5.5 months from launch of Classic?
Are you guys really not putting the mounts in because players will not be able to obtain them if they trickle into the game 4 months post launch? Are mounts really something too rewarding to players that play one of your games day one?
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Listen to your customers and make the game original like it once was. This company doesnt listen and i find it harder and harder to justify giving them $
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Tick-tock, Blizzard. Thereâs about a month left and you still havenât addressed your fanâs concerns.
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reminder that blizzard deleted a thread with over 1k+ posts and this is the second one now over 2k+ posts in total in those 2 threads alone and they are still ignoring their potential customers. this company is beyond foolish.
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At the time I write this post, there are approximately 1049 posts in this thread. There are only approximately 24 posters in this thread, though.
Of those 24 posters, two are responsible for over 230 posts. Almost a quarter of the posts are from only 2 people.
24 people does not seem like many to me, let alone the majority as some want to claim.
That does even take into account that not all of those 24 posters are pleading for those unarmored mounts.
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About to get temp banned for telling some low iq troll to die, good luck my friends
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We need you here, Shimy I wouldânt.
For the mounts!
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Coming here, trying to devalue 24 playerâs dedication towards a topic that is;
Established knowledge that 9X% of players couldnât be bothered either way.
24 Players out of the ratâs nest that is muck flingers, trolls, and toxic keyboard warriors that plague this forum. Could be 75% of the populous that genuinely use these forums for their intended purpose.
500+ players have signed the petition; how many are not aware of Blizzardâs double standard on a topic that 9X% wouldnât be bothered to seek out or worry about?
Please keep the thread on topic.
Fesz, what kind of player, isnât going to be riding a 100% mount in 5.5 months from launch of Classic?
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I noticed the lack of classic mounts the moment I rolled through Mulgore, but if I hadnât been invited to beta I would have never given it a second thought that they wouldnât be included. What you see as a lack of response may be less about the number of people who care, but the number of people who even know about the issue. Even if we were only a small vocal minority, that doesnât mean our arguments are unfounded.
This issue has received a steady stream of replies over the course of a month. Blizzard deleted the original post, but imo their official reply to the issue was half hearted at best and wasnât internally consistent with their reasons for leaving/changing things. As long as I can keep replying with things that arenât âbump,â Iâll be continuing the thread either until launch day, or when a Blue post addresses this in a way thatâs satisfactory to me.
Not including these mounts would be like not including the disgusting oozeling or the crimson drakeling for some reason like âLeaving them in would encourage high level players to farm low level content and disturb lower level playersâ or something like that.
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How many of those less than 1100 posts are simply bumps?
500+ signed a petition?
There were hundreds of thousands of signatures on the petition given to Blizzard before they alannounced that they had decided to make Classic.
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Not many, unless youâre including your unintentional bumps.
Fesz, are mounts really something too rewarding to players that play Classic day one?
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What exactly is wrong with bumping anyhow? It shows people are still interested in the topic and want it discussed. Also, if you search for âbumpâ in this thread you get about 40 results, 10 of which are us talking about bumping right now, and only about 5 of which donât actually continue to contribute to the conversation.
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Your post is only the third post âof us talking about bumping right nowâ.
Show us all the 10 posts which are âus talking about bumping right nowâ.
They should include unarmored epic mounts, but make it where Shimy canât get one. For the lolz
HAHAHAHA, at this point I think a lot of us would fall on that sword.
For the mounts.
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