I’m assuming nobody has contact with the inactive guild members, so I’m not sure how anyone would know if they were banned. It seems incredibly unlikely.
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First off, no one knows if everyone’s ban is connected. Many people are banned for this reason, though the specific circumstances can be much different. And more importantly, they tend to do these bans in waves, so happening at the same time doesn’t necessarily mean the offenses happened at the same time.
Which leads to the second point: while Blizzard certainly may have internal policies that they don’t share, it’s highly unlikely that they do “guild bans”. They have the ability to target individual accounts to be actioned, whether individually or as part of a large wave. There’s really no reason to go with “guilt by association”.
If someone has received an account action, you can be sure that Blizzard has something more substantial than “well, they were in the same guild, so maybe?” That’s not to say it can’t be a mistake. It certainly can, and you should absolutely utilize the appeals process for that. But they are not banning anyone based on the guild they are in.
It’s not. You are assuming , and now trying to base everything off that incorrect assumption.
Well, I certainly don’t want to discourage you from leaving your feedback, so if you truly want to suggest this, you’ll need to do so in the General forum or by utilizing the in-game Suggestion feature. However, I would caution you to not hold your breath until they implement this. A player throwing a childish temper tantrum is generally not how they make decisions for the whole of the game.
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The closest thing I’ve ever seen to a “guild ban” is when someone got their hands on Martin Fury (developer item) and used it to 1-shot a bunch of WOTLK raids back in the day. Everyone in the raid got suspended, the player that used the item got permanently banned, and evidently anyone in the guild that was online during those activities was also temporarily suspended (though it was quickly lifted for those who didn’t take part in the raid after an investigation).
But even so, that targeted a bunch of individual accounts, not the entire guild.
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Yeah, my mind went to the Ensidia Engineering bomb exploit on the Lich King fight. They were warned to not do it, did it anyway, but IIRC, the entire guild was not banned. Just the people who participated.
There’s no “calling” anything in here. Even if they are 1 million percent guilty of everything, they are simply asking for advice and guidance. Let’s not pile on to someone who’s having a rough time, even if the rough time might be their own fault.
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People make mistakes and they can learn from them! But kicking people when they are down is not good or right. If they did something wrong then their appeals will go no place and they will learn from that. But it is not your place or my place to judge them.
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Many of us started playing classic since it was released in 2019 and together we moved from Farelina to Benediction. During the years there are people quit and new people join. My point is I have not been playing classic for almost 2 years but still occasionally talk to people who are actively playing. Many of us are friends beyond WOW at this moment and have contact methods outside WOW. I could confidently say all people I know including the inactive guild members were impacted by this ban wave.
Some how I doubt that and those who have been inactive should appeal. There would be zero evidence to justify such a action.
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Perhaps they are. Again, Blizzard has internal policies and procedures that they don’t share, and “guild bans” may be one of them.
It doesn’t change that the only option you have is for everyone to open their own appeal ticket. No one can appeal for anyone else, and only one ticket per player is needed (at a time; you can always continue to appeal if they uphold the previous one).
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I understand your point. What confuses me is there are lvl 1 bank alts (main is in another guild but has a bank character in our guild for gossip/gchat) got banned too. It is hard to not doubt that Blizzard did a guild ban instead of going over each individual log
We done that. I’m just also talking here because the whole situation is weird and concerning and I would like to hear what people’s thought on it
It is possible the guild was acting like a guild a hacker might have put together to help with their activities but that would be pure speculation. Either way everyone should appeal, have a feeling inactive people should get overturned.
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That isn’t really what this forum is for; What Ifs and the like. Trying to find such about it on the forums often, and will lead to, folks jumping in and trolling the thread. But by the end of the day, it won’t really matter as the folks who handle appeals don’t handle outside info, much less take “X happened and wasn’t my intent on it”.
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I’m just throwing possibilities at the wall, none of us knows what happened in this case and it could turn out that something went awry in the end, but I had two thoughts:
- My understanding is that accounts are suspended/banned, not individual characters. Are you saying that people who only had level 1 characters in the guild had those specific characters banned, or that their whole account was suspended (and their only involvement with the guild was having a level 1 alt for chat purposes)?
- Were those level 1 characters ever used to advertise GDKP runs on other servers? That’s specifically disallowed, characters advertising services on other servers need to be able to participate in the advertised content and I believe need to be advertising a specific upcoming run
- The whole account got banned, not only the lvl 1 alt.
- Nope that alt 1 character never used to advertise anything/participate in any runs… it chills in stormwind
Thing is were not realy suposed to talk about account actions and what may or may not have caused it.
And just ooooone other question…
Did any of the people who caught bans not receive any gold from the GDKP runs that were happening? Any kind of stipend, or were funds put in the guild bank that people had access to withdrawing/repairing from?
There’s some (minor) leeway here. It’s just speculation coming from us anyway, none of us knows.
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That’s normal. Bans are done on the account level. It doesn’t mean their ban happened because of what others in your guild were doing. They may have had their own violations that were actioned.
Regardless of this…
If you’ve all opened your appeals, then Blizzard will handle it. This forum is not really for speculation and conjecture. That’s really what the General forum is for.
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That’s more for finding out how to appeal and what to expect from it. It isn’t really for theory crafting what ifs on the matter.
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Yee I would say all raiders who participate in GDKP have touched the gold. But still it shouldn’t involve the lvl 1 alt. Or people that afk for more than 2 years? Idk. Maybe being in the circle is guilty
Guilds are used as vehicles for RMT with the common strategy being that it’s hard to figure out who is guilty once funds are distributed or left in the guild bank.
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