Tyson vs Jake Paul more embarrassing than the state of PvP

Logan Paul is a disgusting human being. Even if he had a single good quality, I would not name it.

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Yeah, at the same time the movers shakers and shotcallers of the boxing world started cannibalizing their own product MMA was becoming more and more popular, gaining alot of traction as a legitimately marketable and watchable form of combat sport. Hopefully im being overly pessimistic, as I absolutely LOVED what boxing used to priduce, but it’s difficult to see it ever getting anywhere near It’s former glory.

A big fight weekend in Vegas was one of the most electric environments I’ve ever been around. Didn’t even have to be one of those “most of America knows their name” matchups, either. From lightweight to junior middleweight up through welterweight my God those divisions were so enormously stacked with talent and amazing fights. Just being in the casino at the MGM Grand on a fight night produced tingles and excitement and action I cant begin to really describe. Opening rounds of March Madness at the casinos before online gambling was legalized were similar - couldn’t move around the floor without bumping into someone or jockeying for position.

I’ll miss out on so many names, but watching guys Ike Quartey, Felix Trinidad, Pernell Whiatker, Shane Mosley, the list goes and on and on and on. 2 of my best friends were Golden Gloves state champs, so just about every weekend Saturday nights were booked.

OK, unintended ramble down memory lane over.

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MMA is equally as shameless. They monopolized the fighting market and under pay fighters. They’re all awful companies.

Goes without saying, or so I thought.

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I think the popularity of MMA kinda forced boxing to take a different approach.

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It’s a lot of things. There’s hardly ever 1 cause as to why something goes into decline. Match fixing definitely played a major role though. When people watch something they feel they were robbed on, they’re going to pay less attention to it and look for other forms of entertainment. MMA prob grew because of the decline with boxing.

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Not sure what boxing decline you guys are speaking of as Floyd Mayweather did insane numbers for ever. After he retired? Pacquaio and Canelo continued to do huge numbers while the revival of the heavyweight division with Wilder, Joshua, Fury, Usyk etc rose and is also doing insane numbers that UFC cant touch. UFC specifically became huge because of great marketing and picking up Brock Lesnar which really sky rocketed its popularity.

From the golden era in like the Muhammad Ali days.

Completely different time, PPV is significantly harder to sell now. To say it declined while Mayweather still holds every modern ppv record and boxing continues to sell out stadiums is just off

“Bro Tyson is gonna destroy him bro did you see those clips of him train bro?! He punches so hard bro!”

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Yeah I’m sure it sells. I’m sure it’ll always have audience. It did decline tho.

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Declined into still being the biggest combat sport in the world by a large margin?

People like watching gladiator sports for some reason. Been that way forever and ever. It’s weird. I’m watching today’s AWC, is that kinda gladiator-ish? Yeah kinda


It’s not a large margin.

Boxing is becoming a meme.

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It is, UFCs best numbers by far were with mcgregor which still fell short of boxings numbers. He no longer fights and no one on their roster is even close to mcgregors popularity.

Yeah, it was pretty well established. And it’s still a good form of entertainment. It’s still not a real sport tho. There’s way too much match fixing and corruption for it to be taken serious.

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There’s just as much bad judging as there is in MMA. Boxings corruption peaked under Don King and has since withered to non existent. Again at the top level you see bad judging favoring fighters from time to time but straight up fixing no. You dont even watch boxing I can tell so no reason to keep going on

No one is holding you hostage here, brother. It’s a simple discussion.

Lul

Lul last time I checked boxing didn’t have to kick a judge out mid card a couple of months ago