Tyrande isn't crazy

The evidence you’re showing me literally doesn’t even help you. If your point was to disprove that

Then you failed. Uther and his paladins were dismissed by Arthas’s orders. You’re attempting to use some wildly idiotic convoluted logical reasoning that only a fourth grader would unironically use to prove a point.

You’re saying that it was the fault of the Silver Hand and thus the Alliance that Quel’Thalas fell because they didn’t participate in the culling.

This is literal brain-dead reasoning.

I didn’t deny that they came from the Alliance, you dunce. You’re trying to say that it was the fault of the Alliance that Arthas was corrupted. You can’t even directly answer the question if Arthas was aligned with the scourge or the Alliance during the invasion of Quel’Thalas.

You’re trying to frame the argument in a stupid way, but it’s beyond obvious.

Listen, my guy.

Thesaurus .com isn’t a substitute for an argument.

It doesn’t matter if they weren’t monarchs or leaders. The point of the comparison was to show their alignment to their faction, that’s something you’re too dense to understand or are intentionally being an idiot.

Nice. You don’t have an answer to this argument so it must be confirmation bias now.

Yep, you lost this :slightly_smiling_face:

Yep, I said they were undead, and you know what else I said? I said they were allied with the Scourge. Do you know what you’re saying? You’re saying that they’re aligned with the Alliance because Arthas was the heir of Lordaeron, when in reality Arthas destroyed Lordaeron for the Scourge and also attacked Quel’Thalas while leading the Scourge.

Context is important, but you wouldn’t know that.

Doesn’t help me what dude? You’re not answering the question. You’re not specifying what I’m lying about. You’re not even making a coherent assertion.

So how exactly is that different from what I communicated to you several posts ago exactly? How am I “lying” exactly? Spit it out.

The Silver Hand refused to take responsibility for Stratholme and Uther refused to bear the burden of culling the city with Arthas. Uther refused Arthas’ orders and turned his back on him. End of story.

Whereas that’s not an argument. Try again sweetheart.

You absolutely have been denying that. The Scourge came from the Alliance. They are composed of Alliance members. The Alliance are just as responsible for them as the Horde are for Sylvanas. I’ve said this many times.

You’re reduced to insults and fallacies kid I don’t think you have any room to call anyone else stupid.

Oh I’m sorry, did the vocabulary get too complex for you? Did you feel the need to passive aggressively attempt to insult me for using words you don’t like? Pathetic.

It absolutely does because they don’t have authority over a faction. Arthas did, Arthas was the heir to the ENTIRE ALLIANCE OF LORDAERON. Your comparisons are not relevant.

Eat me kid. This isn’t a contest somebody wins. Your mindset is disgusting. You’re doing nothing but insulting me and calling me a liar over and over again. This conversation is a disaster.

That’s ironic coming from Mr “My Comparisons aren’t contextually related to the subject but you must accept them anyway.”

In all honesty, I think we should keep talking about it WW2 in threads, as 1-this is a game about warcraft, and 2-only by having an open discussion about the war, can we prevent such tragedy and waste from happening in the future. I would prefer to speak out against holocaust 2.0 ty.

It doesn’t help support your argument. It’s as simple as that.

You’re using this logic to say that it was Uther’s and the Silver Hand’s fault that they walked away from the purge. Scroll up. You literally wrote this.

And you’re trying to say that this event is why the fall of Quel’Thalas was the fault of the Alliance. This is moronic reasoning. The two events that you’re trying to link literally have no connection to one another and don’t even support your argument.

I mean. You’re crying about me doing this when you literally said that my entire argument is flagrantly absurd. Don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house.

No it’s because you’re trying to string together an argument the same way a high school student would do to fill up the word count for an essay. You took a long paragraph and said nothing other than you disagreeing with my argument without providing any counterexample in it.

Arthas was heir, but Arthas was aligned with the scourge when he attacked Quel’Thalas. Not with the Alliance of Lordaeron. Arthas destroyed his own kingdom.

Only because you can’t differentiate faction alignment.

I mean, if you could actually explain why this is the case I’d address this, but since you haven’t explained why I’m leaving it.

bro

divorce the ww2 concept from the actual phenomena the nuremberg defense is actually describing as a concept about “just following orders”

that’s what im talking about overall.

Maybe she is alittle crazy.

Doesn’t really matter anyway since she’ll now be what Sylvanas was to Arathas in seeking revenge. With any luck we might get to bash her for some loot.

Funny because this pair of sentences form a denial, not a refutation.

It is their fault. They chose to do so. Uther chose to disobey orders. Some members of the Silver Hand canonically stayed with Arthas, so don’t pretend like they didn’t have a choice. If Uther and Jaina had stayed things would be much different. I have evidence of the Fallen Paladins thing by the way: The Deathlord from Warcraft III. You’re grasping at straws, I’m not.

Arthas was the heir to the Alliance. Arthas formed the Scourge. Arthas attacked Quel’thalas after killing his father and seizing the title of King. Every element of the attack on Quel’thalas was caused by Alliance members and the Alliance itself. For the last time: Saying something is “moronic” is not a counter-argument, it’s an infantile denial.

Keep dreaming, child.

Ergo the Alliance was aligned with the Scourge. Thank you come again.

I have done so twice. You won’t get a third.