I feel like this statement should be bookmarked for future reference. But I’m too lazy.
It’s expected to happen just because it did for the Horde, that it will happen for the Alliance the same way?
No. Bad bull. Rolls up Newspaper.
Hush. Bad, very bad.
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That’s been my fear ever since we saw the Night Warrior Hype followed by its amazing and well deserved victory over one Val’kyr.
Then we are being morally messured agaisnt Anduin basically Blizzard is yelling at our faces that we are the evil ones.
As I’ve said many times I don’t like the way the Horde was writen over the years and to see that treatment being shifted not to the Alliance but to My Loved Night Elves is terrifying.
I guess the terrifying thing about Tyrande in the upcoming book is the realization of what’s to come to my favorite race.
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I like the Night Elves having teeth again, but it’s a shame it’s only present in a book, and never shown in game. Blizzard is terrible about carrying through the well written characterization of the races/heroes from the novels.
That said, the Horde don’t get to cut off Sylvanas’ head. That justice belongs to the Night Elves alone.
Boohoo that the Horde got dumped by yet another Warchief, they didin’t suffer a genocide at her hands; they can sit back this time around.
It’s part of why I have no excitement for Shadowlands. Once again an Alliance tragedy is going to be stolen away for a Horde redemption or victory. Teldrassil was entirely framed through the Horde’s narrative, and it sucks that it seems like taking out Sylvanas will be seen the same way.
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People who say that really don’t understand what the other side of the coin is actually like. I see it a lot but usually when it gets boiled down to how they actually want it to play out, it tends to not include the downsides of the Horde experience. People tend to want their revenge fantasy without the consequences that would come with it. There is a serious case of ‘Grass is greener’ and many people on both sides have it. That is why we have these silly arguments over who has it worse. Both experiences are screwed for different reasons. The very fact that the horde is put in a position where Thrall is having to try and earn forgiveness from Tyrande is utter rubbish.
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How do you figure that?
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Because by forcing the Horde to play the villain now horde players who didn’t want to get yet another repeat of Garrosh have a faction that literally is narratively set up to feel ashamed of itself. We are forced down a narrative road and now told we need to feel bad about it. Its basically the equivalent of telling players they should feel guilty for choosing to play horde.
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That comment about the Orphans shook Thrall, and given his history, it’s not hard to see why. He himself was an orphan, he’s known others within the Horde who suffered through exactly what Tyrande described and grew into hateful, vengeance driven individuals who only caused more war and suffering. She let him know the Cycle of Hatred wasn’t broken; it was only getting ready for it’s next circle.
Honestly I wouldn’t mind seeing how the orphans of Teldrassil grow up. If they ended up being driven by a desire for vengeance, I could see Tyrande/Maeiv training them into an elite force. It’d certainly open the door for future conflicts started by the Alliance.
That having been said, what I imagine is going to happen is in some comic a Night Elf orphan is going to sneak into Orgrimmar and try to stab Thrall and Thrall instead is going to end up adopting them and raising them and then that orphan will become the new messiah of the Night Elves after Tyrande, Maeiv, and a Moon-Corrupted Malfurion go down in a raid and Shandris retires to marry Rambo Keeshan.
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I don’t think Tyrande is going to get villain-batted and killed off. That’s a case of victim-blaming even more tone-deaf than Arthas getting a comeuppance on Sylvanas.
It would be hilarious watching Blizzard try to run damage-control if it blew up in social media, especially in a post #metoo world.
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I don’t think she will get killed off either. I think she will share out some of the Night Warrior power as the datamined quest suggested and chill out somewhat. She seems basically like a Jaina 2.0 except with the vengeful aspect of a god in her that is doomed to kill her unless she frees herself of it. She will probably ‘see her bloodthirsty hatred is wrong and repent’.
‘Revenge is bad m’kay.’
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FTFY.
10 char.
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I think this has 2 main drivers:
- Sticking with a character they want to keep but Blizzard seems to be telling them to distance themselves from.
Much like Sylvanas supporters, there are a lot of people who hate what the narrative has done to Tyrande/the night elves, and if the story is shoving her off a cliff, they’ll happily walk right off after her in protest.
- Blizzard has made the two options out to be ridiculous parodies.
Tyrande’s “ragh kill Horde, all Horde, no one is innocent” is crazy, but it’s set up against Anduin’s “Awww, but Sylvanas flipped them off an left! I know we haven’t dealt with the Horde members still painting themselves in Teldrassil’s ashes and chanting ‘kill night elf children’, but you just have to let go of your hate! Go rebuild your home right next to them - I’m sure it will end well! All Horde are innocent!” which is just as painful to follow.
So a lot of people, I suspect, wouldn’t want the story to go as far as what Tyrande is being written to want, but do want some amount of revenge/justice/demanding reparations, and Anduin has been written to ask for exactly none of that. So it’s just a choice of which inane strawman position to back, because that’s all Blizzard is giving us.
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If Blizzard decides to turn Tyrande bad like Sylvanas to show how “both sides are wrong” (even though Tyrande is motivated by revenge for Sylvanas’ actions and Sylvanas by a cartoon villain plot)…you think a drop in subscription numbers was bad from the war of thorns? Just you wait ‘enry ‘iggins just you wait!
Only of course because Danuser is in charge, Sylvanas will be redeemed and Tyrande won’t.
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I can deal with anything at this point because I’ve endured the bad writing of Night Elves for so many years BUT the only thing I trully wish is for Tyrande not to die and also for her to remain our Racial Leader.
I’de hate to get a story that leads to her only chance of surviving is to stay in Ardenweald forever. Or just simply dying and having to remain there for the rest of WoW.
I want her to come back to us and keep leading us to whatever disaster Blizzard has in store for their favorite punching bags.
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On that note, what if Ysera became a racial leader for the final Alliance allied race after being brought back to life and we get green drakonids/dragonmen as that race?
I didn’t even pick up on that. Good catch!
it would be a nice change from setting everyone in the Alliance painted as lawful good. They could be the more aggressive side of the faction.
Fixed that.
Repent for what? She’s done nothing worthy of repenting, not yet at least. But honestly the horde deserves whatever she dishes out.
Even if Tyrande does give up the Night Warrior and vengeance I wouldn’t her to go back to her normal self entirely. If like her to keep a bit of the fury that she has picked up.
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Night Elves truly are the Worf of the Alliance. Can’t have Anduin’s humans be hurt by the Elder Evil/Horde, Worgen and the Allied races are too new/too few (or Worgen are written as furry Night Elves now), and the rest are secondary characters. Night Elves are a convenient target to show how strong the elder evil/villain batted horde is without Stormwind being hurt at all. There is no war in Stormwind.
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Genocide is wrong the moment tyrande fights a war of extermination like Sylvanas was doing this xpac she will be in the wrong
It has nothing to do with what the nelves are but where they live it’s about geography the nelves live next to the horde power base. Stormwind is sitting behind a ocean
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