But we were talking about progression not scaling, if twinks couldn’t bypass level progression that would put a damper on their incentive to min max gear.
That’s a silly argument. If twinks couldn’t bypass leveling, there would be no twinks and you’d be crying about how arena players are stomping regular BG players. You cannot say I’m wrong. I’ve been here for the old forums and the one we have now. I have seen almost every angle.
The difference between an arena geared player and BG geared player is a lot less than the difference between a legitimate leveling character and a twink.
And it’s not like it’s hard to differentiate the two with the exp off option.
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Just because someone is a twink doesn’t make them a great player 
that’s just a ridiculous way to think.
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Not at all. You still have fresh 80’s that are gearing. They have little to no resil gear and get curb stomped. The HP of a max areana geared player vs fresh 80’s is exactly like a 19 twink vs 19 and sub non twinks.
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Wrong the gear gap at max level is more especially in these latter phases with Raid trinkets,100% arp, Tier sets, Shadowmourne, professions etc…
Casual BG players are not only 2 Tiers in gear behind Arena players in PvP gear but don’t have the BiS Raid gear that puts you over the top. The difference is massive. A Warrior with Shadowmourne and 100% Arp in Tier will Aoe 1 shot half a team in the blink of an eye.
It’s a gear based game, it starts at level 1 and continues through your journey at max level. At max level I’m over the Resil cap at 1440 Resil and a casual BG player will never get me below 80% HP. It just won’t happen. This only gets worse next phase.
The gear progression and gear gap is what makes RPG PvP the real PvP. You need power and skill to be good.
Of course you have fresh 80’s queueing, but at 80 min maxxing gear is what everyone is focused on.
Once again this would be a non issue if twinks just had their own queue.
I agree. I had a twink until I leveled them. As I leveled them (doing BG to break the monotony) I killed the hell (1 vs 1) out of several twinks.
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It’s not just that but in my example. A fully geared BG player in PvP gear is massively behind an actual geared player and will get obliterated. The power gap is extreme. So this argument that guy was making is false.
I’ve been literally 1 shot by hunters. There is nothing about it that makes you “good”.
It’s a simple gear difference. It’s just a matter of being in range to hit someone.
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You’re proving yourself wrong with that argument. Clearly (as evident of this thread) not everyone is focusing on that.
I’m all for a fair fight, but you will NEVER find in this game.
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Sure it is. You got countered hard by their gear. They are the better player and got the gear. Want to compete then gear up.
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Nothing about twinking makes you a good player.
Nothing…
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Oh no I fully agree that twinks don’t want to lose their easy kills, they proved that quit strongly back in the day when they were in fact given their own queue and they stopped playing.
And sure there’s always going to be some imbalances, but that’s not an excuse not to correct obvious and easily solved ones.
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Why so angry about the core aspect of the game?
The whole point of playing this game is Min/Maxing aka Twinking. If you don’t have gear, enchants, professions, flask, food etc. You are a bad player.
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Are you playing only 10-19 bracket? I agree it’s garbage at that level.
Which one is it? Range or gear? Range doesn’t make you immortal when you have many other players. Tactics, call outs, et cetera come into play as well. I’m not defending or trashing twinks. You, on the other hand, have a clear one sided agenda that fails to see all sides.
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So then you would have no problem with blizzard removing the exp off option so twinks would level like everyone else right? You know min maxxing.
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I’m not…
Thanks for another laugh.
Both…can’t do damage if you aren’t in range.
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During the week, yes.
CTA gives enough bonuses when its gone to crap, I can num lock this a few times for a few xp bubbles. There is no shame to my xp making game lol.
I go in matches hopeful then see 2 minutes later if hope is still alive. If it is, game on. If not…hope the next match is better.
In the case of my s. priest, honor too. Honor for the 60 honor set she rates in a few levels. I am trying not to wipe out all the 80’s wg marks lol.
This rots during the week off the CTA bonus cycle really.
I’ve had pops hit that had me go damn I forget I signed up. The eyeball was saying 40 minutes for the pop.
Once RDF comes…who knows how even CTA pops go. NGL I will take the RDF and just spam AV at that point. For the honor for the 80 ding gear shopping spree.
Av going to crap in the 70’s is expected. I can’t even blame twinks there. I blame 30 idiots outside van or drek who let 1 rogue or druid mess up a timer. they don’t have to hold that tower/bunker.
Live long enough to reset the timer is more than sufficient.
If you are laughing at facts that just makes you unware. Which is probably why you are mad. You don’t even know what type of game you are playing.
Gear is the absolute main part of this game and why it’s PvP is better. It’s called RPG PvP and if you didn’t know, now you do. So if you want to be a good player, get some gear.
Gear and a great build is great counterplay.
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