True Horde: Hide your shoulders and helms

um honestly how is my post “toxic”? My belief is exactly the same as Baine in game. Baine is MY leader. I only support the Horde as long as he does. There is a reason my name contains Cairne.

I will ally with those who support my ideals and refuse to blindly support those diametrically opposed to them. Death to the living is NOT any of my toons mottos.

I am not the one claiming everyone should die…

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Sylvanas came back for two reasons. 1) she did not want to spend eternity in the Shadowlands 2) to prevent Garrosh from decimating her people in Gilneas just to break through the Gilnean wall only to have the rest of the Forsaken taken as slaves (some killed themselves rather than have that happen). I know that Sylvanas is selfish and a sociopath but she absolutely does care for her people in her own twisted Sylvanas way. Sustaining positive emotions is generally the exception not the rule for most Undead.

Saurfang has already lost himself. He had an opportunity to come back with the Horde and face her himself but he choose to sulk in an Alliance prison until an 18 year old Human gave him a pep talk. He doesn’t give a crap about the Horde. All he cares about is his honor. I hope we can give him the honorable death he so desires.

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You are toxic cause you champion a cause basically cimented over racial aesthetics, no more and no less. For you morality IS an afterthough considering how you refuse to see how your parangon is anything but moral (I mean your nuSaurfang champion was only so giddy and happy over the prospect of conquering someone else’s backyard and having the civilians basically kidnapped just to get his cake and eat it).

Blizzard just gave you ammo to complain over the post RTS Horde having more racial diversity than mudhut dwellers, period. And you took it to the point of literally telling other fellow players how much they DON’T deserve to be part of your exclusive faction club (you know… literally the oposing meaning of the Horde’s heart and core themathics. So much for a haven for the misfits under your narrowminded vision, lul…)

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Sociopathy doesn’t necessarily mean you are a bad person, it just means you aren’t able to distinguish good from bad or empathize with others. Which is basically what half your responses in this thread show. A lack of understanding of good and bad in and out of the game.

It’s a video game bud. I’m perfectly capable of distinguishing right from wrong outside of the game lmao. Next time someone goes and burns a city down IRL, I won’t be defending them.

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I will always stand in support of High Overlord Saurfang. Honor. No matter how dire the battle, never forsake it.

Shoulders off for the true spirit of the Horde!

Again, someone taking my opinion of a videogame character as an indicator of my mental stability.

:clap: :clap: give him a round of applause everyone.

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People don’t get this . Every soldier and that is what we are when we play is a arrow in our leaders quiver .

Be it a fantasy game character or a real life soldier that is the job . In fact even in non military terms just your average employee in a sense is an arrow in his or her managers quiver. We do what we are told even if we don’t agree or even respect the person because when it all comes down to it we all know that duty is given and respect is earned.

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Yeah gotta love all these people who think we need to drag our real life morality into a video based around killing crap for fun, gold, and loot.

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This, this right here. That’s making an assumption on my mental health based on my thoughts of a videogame character.

I never once called my self a bad person, neither did I claim you did. It’s a videogame character in a role playing game, and I always gravitate towards the evil/edgy side. I support the Empire in star wars too, does that mean I want to commit mass genocide and destroy planets?

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I’m not going to support saurfang.

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I am annoyed that I feel the need to wear shoulders and a helm just so I don’t get accidentally associated with this nonsense.

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Wow, just wow. Ok you gave the EXACT reason why factions are the EVIL that you claim I am. If I am toxic for saying I stick to the Ideals of the Horde Blizzard created, your response is just as bad.

Why cant my dwarf join the Horde? Are you racist against misfit dwarves who dont fit in the Alliance? What about an evil gnome warlock in the Horde? If we can’t exclude a blood elf, why can we exclude a Human?

BTW I would be tremendously happier if there was NO Horde or Alliance>. How can I be toxic for excluding 3 races (while being forced to work within the faction system I hate) when I wish there was no faction at all so no one would be excluded? Just WOW, I cant even…

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She has more sense than, it seems, that you do.

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No she doesn’t, they are a tool to her and she has shown that time and time again. Hell she killed off loyal ones at the meeting in the Arathi Highlands because she didn’t want the rest of the Forsaken to think that these was even the slightest chance they would be accepted back to their living family members.

The ONLY reason she came back was because she didn’t want to spend an eternity in “hell”. The Forsaken and now the Horde as a whole are her shield against that happening.

Seriously? That group wasn’t even sent there to break Saurfang out. Sylvanas wasn’t even interested in bringing him back because she knows he will not follow her lead anymore. Why do you think she sent the Dark Ranger to kill him after he “escapes”? Because him being free is a threat and she knows it…

You should go back and read the material, man. She absolutely came back because of what Garrosh was doing. Why else would it be brought up if not to highlight that she didn’t want them to be exterminated by Garrosh and the Alliance? She killed the people in Arathi because they were literally defecting in front of her. We didn’t go there to break out Saurfang because we didn’t even know he was still alive… and once we did see he was alive Rokhan was pretty confused as to why he wasn’t coming back with us. She didn’t send the Dark Ranger to kill Saurfang, we were sent to bring him back. Once the Dark Ranger had proof that Saurfang was aided by the Alliance she wanted to kill him. High ranking Horde military member working with the enemy during a war? Why shouldn’t we kill him?

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I can say I’m glad I made this thread. I’m learning a lot from both sides of the argument. I still am a staunch supporter of the Horde no matter who is at the helm. But I still care about that old orc warrior.

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I dont, Id be happy to see him broken lying in the pens outside of Org, drunk and his face hidden. Traitors should be treated like nature intended them to be… like the garbage they are.

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You’ve got some deep seeded anger inside you don’t you demon hunter.

You aren’t really helping by going around calling players toxic…

@holocene LMAO at that dude calling you a sociopath.

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