Not for sharow priests sadly. Its a C-
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Iâm hanging onto a pair of hero pants that Iâm going to see if I need to catalyze tomorrow. I have a champion head/chest now and the shoulders of a veteran.
Iâm just glad Iâm patient.
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Iâm planning to do the same thing. I have looked at my Tier and determined that the head item has the worst secondary stats so I plan to craft that tomorrow, since it will likely be one of the most beneficial items to have at the higher item level for a while. I think itâs going to be a long time before I have a chance to start getting Mythic raid loot that could replace it.
That too, vers pieces are the first to get the boot.
Bloodmallet has to update their BiS list.
Why wasnât this done when the patch released? It was obvious to everyone but Blizzard apparently.
Most trinkets are still garbage.
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Iâve never seen a season where there are so many bad trinkets
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Lifeâs great mysteries.
never seen any of those. the only one that rings a bell is conductorâs wax whistle and that one was already âdecentâ
dont think this will change any meta
The placement of delve trinkets in tier lists is largely informed by their ilvl availability. Were things like energy drink and funhouse lens available at 678 ilvl, or more readily available at 665, they would have been placed higher.
You can see the dps comparisons at various ilvls quite easily on most charts. For example https://warcraftpriests.github.io/?talents=vw_cthun&sims=trinkets&fightStyle=Single you can clearly see the 665 ilvl bar for both is well above anything available from dungeons and within spitting distance of BIS from raids for Shadow Priests.
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Hmm, I see your point and I agree. 
Most players donât have their best Delve trinkets no where near 665 or 678. I would say 649 (Hero) to 658âish?
This is where I can see most people who are using Delve trinkets are mainly Delving as their content and possibly using them as a âlast resortâ in Raid or M+ if they donât have their BiS trinkets yet. Or, they could be using second best Raid or M+ trinkets instead.
Delve trinkets really donât have much of an identity outside of Delves other than Open World with a very few exceptions that are better than some Raid or M+ trinkets esp the Energy Drink and Lens in for your example which are pretty high in the DPS tier list on that site.
This needs a LOT more than a 20% buff if you want this to ever be used. Signet of the Priory strictly outclasses Flarendoâs Pilot Light, after this 20% buff, for every single int DPS spec in the game and Soulletting Ruby is at worst a minor decrease compared to Pilot Light (and is usually also strictly better). Even House of Cards, which isnât even a 2-minute trinket, absolutely dunks on Flarendoâs Pilot Light for every single int DPS spec in the game.
Flarendoâs Pilot Light needs a 20% buff to its Intellect to be worth considering for anything (besides maybe Aff) right now, and is somehow the worst of a series of three absolutely dreadful 2-minute trinkets.
Iâm pretty sure this is also a downgrade to equip still.
Speaking of downgrades to equip, this absolute stinker of a trinket needed at least another zero added to its damage to be usable. A 678 version of this trinket is worse than a 639 Sacbrood, Mark of Khardros, or Skarmorak Shard (trinkets you literally cannot obtain anymore) by a comfortable margin for all Strength DPS specs. There are specs that would use Flarendoâs Pilot Light (an INTELLECT trinket) over this garbage.
Hell, this trinket is arguably worse than Platinum Pummeler Plating because this thing actively disrupts your rotation to press.
Does buffing this thingâs damage do anything? Youâre not using this for its damage; youâre using this to basically become immune to damage for a few seconds.
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The fact that you have to buff 30+ trinkets says we have too many trinkets. Just delete the trash ones and tone down all the crappy drops people get
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Yeah, using a 40 stack on that thing is just insane, the damage boost it gives me on an end of Delve boss is just too hard to pass up.
Letâs go! This trink going crazy!
I think my takeaway from the trinket debate this season is that all trinkets in a given tier/season should either just be stat sticks (which IMO are boring) or damage-dealers, rather than having both. I say this because theyâre very hard to balance against each other and usually favor the stat sticks because stats scale better than damage effects on trinkets.
Iâd rather have stat sticks if it meant less of them in the loot table.
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Agreeing with all the sentiment, the buffs need to go further. There were trinkets from the previous expansion that hit harder than many of these trinkets. A 2min cd should hit for over 10mil. A 626 Mad Queens could hit this damage, albeit with secondary stat instead of primary, but that damage should be present on 678s with primary.
I miss impactful trinketsâŠ
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I opened my vault 1st week and literally had 5 trinkets in there. And every single one of them was C-tier or lower. If i can get 5 trinket options and not a single good one then there are too many trinkets on the loot table. If they are good for other classes they should limit more to those classes specific loot tables.
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They used to be a lot stronger than this. Idk what theyâre scared of