Actually, what this means is that there is a precedent that directly contradicts your assertion that off - colors are time sensitive. It has nothing to do with norms and exceptions.
It has everything to do with something being an exception because Blizzard called it an exception outright due to model, and animation set.
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They called it outright by not calling outright, only from your interpretation?
They certainly stated off colors are not time limited, since… it is not time limited.
And nobody cares about the pixels you want to lord over other players to compensate for your lack of self-worth.
I’ve got all the mage tower skins pal. Half of them earned before Argus gear trivialized the challenges. Current mage tower is more of a challenge than it ever was for most of its runtime in Legion.
I want these old things to be available ideally through maintaining the challenge with scaling, but wouldn’t care if they were easier anyway because ultimately it’s legacy content. Legacy content is supposed to be trivial.
They wouldn’t need to. The tower scales you DOWN to its level. The only reason they temporarily disabled it at the start of DF was to make sure the complete upheaval done to the talent system didn’t crack it wide open. Unless they play to make similar core systems-level changes like that every patch, I don’t think they would have any reason to disable it again.
And we’ve had ample time to enjoy the benefits of doing it when it was new. Now it’s legacy content. New players should have the opportunity to earn them again.
You’re right it’s not the same as the original. It’s harder on average.
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you just don’t understand, it’s about the challenge. it would diminish what the pixels represent - if you think people don’t care about their pixels in WoW you’re just delusional.
next. 
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That’s actually proving my point though. Why should Blizzard have to spend resources revamping the Mage Tower every time they revamp the classes? Their answer would more than likely just be making it as easy as Timewalking because they couldn’t and shouldn’t be bothered with having to put in time for it.
Personally, I don’t partake in content for the exclusives solely for the idea that they become up for grabs later down the line. That’s completely dishonest from Blizzard to do that.
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If it’s about exclusivity by difficulty and not by time we should remove the time factor and allow people to challenge said difficulty, but I bet you wouldn’t want that.
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what are you talking about exactly? it’s about the experience…that’s the real FOMO here. you can’t replicate that. i’ve listed examples dating all the way back to Vanilla WoW…special pixels are the visual representation of the experience.
Ion also explained this in the Nagurra interview. i don’t understand why you are having such a hard time grasping that side of this discussion 
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But it wouldn’t be the same challenge. Class design is different than it was in Legion
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I haven’t and am not going to read through all hundred posts, so just a heads up.
Since it’s not about the difficulty, and about time (experience at that exact moment), off - colors represent a similar challenge, of a different time, like the fel bear.
Again, you wouldn’t want this because for you it’s likely about neither, but just wanted exclusivity for the sake of it.
Sure it is, but as people with experience have pointed out late legion negated a large part of the difficulty, and nobody was asking for the exact skins, but off colors.
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Yeah even then I disagree with it. It would be a “give a mouse a cookie” situation. And no. It’s not. You can’t pretend that DF class design is the exact same as Legions
The fel bear was pretty well explained when it was added. Whereas there are heaps of options for weapon skins to choose from, druids have very few options for bears, so by not having a shot at the banjo-kazooie skin they were disproportionally affected.
The only argument for any other skin that is similar was the flail for warriors, and you’ll notice that one of the first things to hit the trading post was a flail model.
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Ok so as I said in the other comment, the challenge is at least of a similar level to the original tower, and harder than it was for most of its runtime.
So you’re totally fine with the old skins coming back since it’s still a challenge?
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I literally said sure it is, I don’t know what you’re arguing against.
I guess this alludes to a slippery slope (logical fallacy), but it’s really a non - argument.
Mage Towers are singular events per class, unless you are arguing that more mage tower - esque challenges would be presented in the future and give out actual old mage tower items, which seems highly unlikely at best and illogical at worst.
This ship has also set sail already with the fel bear, and old bear skins are in no additional danger of being re - released.
If we operate by this prudency, you must also argue against all reskins (inclusive of PVP< M+ mounts, trading post, etc.). Again, not entirely logical and also we’re long past that point.
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Again, the fel bear was explained very well by Blizzard when it was announced.
Well I haven’t kept up, could I have a link to what was clarified? If it was
During Legion, the Mage Tower awarded most specs a new weapon appearance, yet players who missed earning those still have countless other admirable weapon transmogs to collect across the whole of the game. But for Guardian druids, the Mage Tower prize was an alternate bear form with a unique silhouette and animations. There is simply nothing else like it in the game. For years, we’ve heard feedback from druid players who are frustrated that something so transformative is no longer available, and we agree. Therefore, in Legion Timewalking, Guardian druids who complete The Highlord’s Return challenge will also receive a new fel variant of the “werebear” form
It really is a point towards reskins of all the other mage tower items, in my opinion. But if they disagree then we can only hope to change their mind since it’s a logical inconsistency.
I thought you were saying that DF and Legion had the exact same class design. That’s my mistake.
I’m not for reskins when Blizzard announces that certain items are supposed to be time exclusive. I’m for new challenges with new rewards. Again. And people keep glossing over this. There is no logical reason for Blizzard to constantly revamp the Mage Tower to make sure it retains any level of challenge. That to me is a complete waste of time.
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There are only so many “difficult” types of content in the game, for one that has completed it you might feel that it is wasted effort but I think many others would appreciate it. I’m sure Blizzard has internal analytics informing them of the potential return on engagement for their development hours.
It’s a valid opinion, but doesn’t really contradict what I stated prior, since you just disagreed with what has already happened, but not refuting that it has happened. I guess it’s up to Blizzard to decide on which camp they wish to appease.
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I would love to see all the mage tower tints available in hot pink from the trading post.
Imagine a pink roid bear, or a neon pink sparkle kitty!
It would be glorious… And you would easily tell it’s not from the original mage tower.
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First, its not logically inconsistent. Their rationale is well defined, and logical.
Second, even if they weren’t logically consistent there is nothing saying that have to be. Nobody can form post rules lawyer them into doing anything. They’re allowed to contradict themselves, they are large, they contain multitudes.
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