Torghast isn't fun, stop making it forced content

I actually agree with them buffing the floor bosses but I think that some of the final bosses need a nerf. Especially that ooze that doesn’t split.

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That’s like the first time in 16 years that mages aren’t OP.

I’m melee dude, I tried the kiting with the abilities I have but he actually has ysera gift I guess and was healing

It’s true that an offensive dispel is really, really useful in there. Some of the boss buffs are pretty huge.

Try it on any other class. It’s super easy for pally, and they are quite OP right now.

No. They aren’t unplayable, they just aren’t the dominant mage spec.

And despite this, frost is shown to be capable being within 100 dps of the other specs according to logs.

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You do realize Ret is in the bottom 4 while frost mage is in the middle of the pack meaning it’s balanced

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Melee are very much capable of kiting. And the reason to do this is waiting for X CD to pop, ofcourse this is situational and a case by case bases.

Yseras gift iirc was interruptable. Yeah it hurts to hold back on interrupting crush or w/e.

Paladin being in bottom 4 heroic Castle dps logs is OP…?

I think thorgast is fun. Even on my rogue.

You can’t interrupt after 10 stacks.

You’re all trying to tell me what to do but I promise im better then all of you. The encounter was a stat check plain and simple

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Ret is #8 in DPS in heroic in Castle. Frost is bottom 5.

You’re not right.

You are comparing raid logs to solo play? Not the same.

So get better stats.

30 minutes to run into a stat check is definitely really fun content.

~https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/topic/54941-castle-nathria-shadowlands-day-1-dps-log-rankings/~

Imagine being absolutely incorrect and still reading sims over actual in game played data

Im easily ahead of the curve currently… my item level may crawl 5ish points unless I get absolutely lucky in the raid this week

Not entirely. It does become important, for sure, if you want legendaries.

And you do have to rescue NPCs from Torghast for your Covenant BUT the NPC rescues are seperate instances not tied directly to Torghast proper.

But the good news (if you can call it such) is if you’re fine in crafted gear, random epics, Covenant gear, etc., you can pretty much treat Torghast as a “side quest” which you do when all the other stuff is done, you have an hour or two to spare, or you’re bored of WQ and dungeons.

At least, that’s how I treat it.

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Why not just go to the source insteead of using an AG?

Also that blue isn’t Frost Mage homie.

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I don’t like (new) diablo.

I love torghast.

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181 isn’t ahead of the curve, it’s on par with standard mythic dungeons, layer 6s being released with the raid, implies it’s intended to be done with this new accessible pool of much more powerful items.

So no, you aren’t ahead of the curve, your sitting at a decent middle ground.

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Torg shouldn’t be tied to Raid gear or raid level gear. Doing so discourages players from using it. It should bee tied to ilvl170 at most.

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