Torghast has a limited resource called Vitality and Keys for Entry

Yep, that nails it right there. It was very anti-guild and has hurt this patch big time. My guild are all casuals and many are still on their mains with cloak rank 8s and stuff. I’d love to help, but I can’t - it’s easier to carry peeps in M10s. That seems way wrong.

Due to visions, this patch I have actually played less with my guildies than last patch… why do that?

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“A soft-timer per floor might be added so that people don’t feel incentivized to only pull with cooldowns up.”

RIP exploration I guess.

Looks like nothing they do will make you happy.

Exploration is your excuse? Are you going to “explore” for 10 mins between each pull while you wait for lust/CDs on higher floors? Yeah, I didn’t think so.

Except there is stuff to explore based on what they said? HIdden keys/chests/items?

But OK, keep it up champ.