Top Ret corruptions?

what part? that’s what corruption system is going to be, dps per corruption point. and people min/maxing on the corruption breakpoints.

mastery is good because rets already have azerite traits that have mastery increase, so why wouldn’t you stack that stat? especially with PERCENTAGE increases that are super prone to massive stacking

your own toon already has a ton of mastery percentages, i see 5x 9% increases for %45 total. so you’re already starting to do what i wrote about.

I think truthfulness is spot on, looking at the top Ret pallies dps they were already crazy stacking mastery.

Infinite stars may sim high but I think mastery will be better.

It’s all rank 2 mastery this week so I’ll hold off for mastery rank 3’s.

That comment is for Renae because she really doesn’t like the deadtime haha

infinite stars is better for PURE ST dps only. if you do any kind of AOE or other stuff mastery is probably better.}

The rank 2 masteries might be a good intermediate measure for now since no one is going ot have 125 cloak corruption resistance until september 8th at the earliest

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What times does the corruption change today?

Basically most of it. Blood mallet is showing rank one ineffable truth specifically to be super high dps per corruption point by itself meaning if you stacked all of it on all your gear you probably have a really high uptime on wings for such a cheap corruption cost. It doesn’t say anything about you’d just need one or two of them for any reason.

The downside is that it’s so cheap that even if you had it on every piece of gear you’d still have so much more corruption you could afford to wear that it would be a loss.

It’s a great choice to stack as many ineffable truth1 as possible but prioritize making more expensive choices like mastery3 to get yourself to that 39 corruption cap or whatever you think you can afford to wear.

And as for the mastery proc corruption, it’s not a choice corruption. It’s way down on the list. If you happen to have it like fine, wear it as a placeholder. But you’d be better off with mastery3 if you have the choice. Its just strait up way better in any kind of situation of any length. Maybe in a super short bursty situation it could be better though.

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I bought two ineffible truths

Infinite Stars performs pretty poorly in shorter fights, we just don’t proc it enough for it to ramp up quickly so we need the longer fights to really benefit from it. Ineffable Truth suffers from the same problem, it performs better in longer fights because it generally has a pretty low proc rate. I think that 8x Masterful 3s is going to be pretty nuts.

I’ve been trying to math this out to see how to possibly optimize ineffable stacks, let me know if this makes sense:

At 1 rank 1, with 1 ppm (according to wowhead), you would expect to progress the cooldown of wings by 3 seconds (1.3x cooldown recovery increase for 10 seconds per minute). Since the cooldown of wings will still be over 1 minute, you can on average expect half the time to get another ineffable proc, for an average of 4.5 seconds taken off the cooldown of wings before its usable again. As you stack the effects and assume they are linearly additive, you can double this amount of cooldown reduced until you hit a 60 second cooldown. From my rough math (and scaling the partial cooldown reduction as the cooldown approaches 60 seconds) you would reach this effective 60 second cooldown at somewhere between 5 and 6 ineffable truth pieces. Combined with the expected proc from visions this would give ~76% wings uptime. Not sure if this outscales stacking other corruptions but it’s an interesting consideration. Let me know if you see any issues with how I’ve done these estimations as I might be wrong with how the effect works/stacks.

This would be 50-60 corruption and 5-6 item slots, leaving a couple left for a few stacks of mastery passive still. Only have a few hours left if I want to buy more so trying to confirm this is how it works.

i doubt so. we’re in that end of expac part where keeping balance isn’t needed anymore since all the top guilds have already done the world first races. now it’s fine to get things overpowered prior to shadowlands. don’t think they ever nurfed the blood dk tank stacking with strength of the warden/twilight sillyness

you dont want to stack just ineffable rank 1 because its so cheap. if you only stack ineffiable you would fall far below 174 corruption… you’d be at 96. So you’d lose out on some power because you would be ‘too efficient’. If you REALLY wanted to stack all ineffiable, get x4 rank 2 ineffiable and 4x rank 1. It fills out 168 out of 174 corruption and you’d have 320% CD reduction for 10 secs per minute. So according to Chucklesmith’s math that would be 32 seconds reduction on wings every minute. You could nearly have 100% wings uptime, especially with Vision procs.

ineffiable also reduces the CD of blade of wrath, judgment, and crusader strike, if i’m not mistaken. so it overall increases holy power generation. if it procs, you get more of you holy power generators.

ineffiable is also RPPM, so it can proc back to back. also affected by haste, so you’d stack haste.

I don’t like too much ineffiable because if its up all the time, then your skills are never on CD, so you’d feel like you’re being too efficient.

Is 20% dmg and crit from wings better than mastery stat stacking and procs? I’m not sure but I don’t think it is.

My division of corruptions fills out the corruption available and has decent spread of everything. you get some mastery procs, which provide more mastery than ONLY stacking the static mastery increases. Also some ineffiable, which hopefully kills the ‘dead’ time ret has sometimes AND increases wings uptimes.

btw, You would need 7,625 mastery before a rank 3 masterful (12% increase) would give you the same mastery as a mastery corruption proc. That’s not feasible… unless maybe you have nothing in other stats.

I suppose you could instead get
2 ineffiables (24 cor)
6 masterful r3 (120 corr)
that would total out at 144 corruption, so you’d only have 30 corruption active

HOWEVER, despite masterful being more efficient, honed mind (mastery proc) IS definitely MORE damage overall than just masterful. it’s just not as efficident.

according to bloodmallet, my setup is 27106 dps total
6x masterful and 2x ineffiable is 24600 dps total

Maybe there’s a better combination out there that adds more dps, if you find it, let me know

EDIT: using hectic add cleave. I think most of us use more AOE than not. most WoW content nowadays have lots of mobs - visions, multiple nya bosses, world quests (group and cleave down), etc.

Guess we are waiting til next week