People can ask for whatever they want. No harm done.
Era still exists, as does hardcore. People who want classic have a place to go. SoD is not classic. Neither is Cataclysm, but that’s another topic.
Neither is wrath. Neither is tbc.
Only classic is classic.
Yes we do lol
classic is better… but only in certain ways, if I ask for changes from retail or something of the sort, it doesn’t automatically make classic like retail…
Purists and #NoChanges were ever-present throughout all of Vanilla and TBC Classic. Where were you?
Correct.
Ok, so you really need to read my post again, but I’ll clarify.
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I’m not saying I don’t want to see any changes. I wouldn’t be playing SoD if I did. People who want no changes won’t even be commenting on this forum.
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What I DID say, is that the challenge with presenting the changes we would all like, is that it’s very hard to figure out who to listen to. If Blizzard needs to listen to me, who just wants slightly better class balance and more interesting skills while still keeping the challenge, pace and community of Classic, then they ALSO have to listen to the dude who wants a bunch of other changes that would be objectively bad for the game.
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Classic players have an inherent negativity toward suggestions that come from people who play retail regularly.
It’s pretty obvious why. The entire game was changed dramatically from Classic into what retail is right now. It’s a vastly different game, to the point where the people who enjoyed the original game, do not enjoy the retail version.
What rational sense does it make to listen to the target audience of the evolution of the game that was built for people that wanted everything that was not Classic?
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Classic is Classic era.
SoD is vanilla wow with sweeping changes and additions.
You know what 100% is not classic? Runes. Lv25 raids. Weekly class balancing. Ashenvale pvp event. Future leveling raids.
As much as retail players may or may not complain and ask for changes, classic era players need to realize this also is not their game. It is a completely different world (of warcraft).
Retail players have their own world. Classic era players have their own world. SoD is it’s own world. Everyone should realize though that SoD trends towards progressive changes. You’re probably going to need keybinds, a second action bar and maybe a bit more attention paid in later phases.
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Wrong. SoD is freedom of discovery and they can make any changes they want since eventually everything goes away. So if they want to put store mounts into Season of Discovery, or level boosts to each max level at start of every phase, then power to you Blizzard. It’s fine. There is no redeeming yourself even after bringing Metzen back. Blizzard has died and is now the workhorse of Microsoft. They gotta make money somehow.
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Ok I will give you one thing you are correct who does blizzard listen to ? What changes should they do ? You’re right that is not an easy answer however.
Speaking from somebody That played back in 2004 till now I can say I do enjoy the modern game for different reasons.
You are correct in saying yes they are different games however what i’m saying is It’s not as easy to say one change makes something the modern game.
And you say that but I kind of find it ironic I’ll give wrath Classic and all the changes that they’ve done to that Most of them were received good.
And ironically enough I think the only miss step was not pudding rdf in Earlier you could argue the token but that’s a whole other can of worms.
Now I will I say I am an outlier But I also will say sod As one of the very few things that Retail and classic players can enjoy.
And again what i’m saying is I would rather blizzard throw everything at the wall And see what sticks because We will never know if it’s good until they try it.
Sod is new And that’s the exciting thing We don’t know Is where it’s going to lead And rather blizzard Maketh ton of bad decisions in a Season So they know what doesn’t work.
That’s what i’m saying As far as people that want no changes not coming on this form I would disagree I’ve seen a couple posts that scream yeah you just hate sod And anything that’s not vanilla is bad to you.
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I want classic, But I don’t mind a few extras now and then. I’d like to see instances like Legion invasion where it’s world wide totally random with rewards etc.
The greatest possible way they could ever bridge that is very simple.
Era Diving
Meaning, you have a character in classic, but you can use it in Era server if you wish. No items come and go between the realms, and experience gets reset, but you get to keep appearance and name. It’s pretty much like owning a name and being able to assign a race, a class, and level to it that you want to be at. If you want to jump into era just for raiding, you put your saved name into a race, a class, and the level you need to be to access that content. You get there naked and leveled, but able to get geared easily because of an intro quest lines that gets you outfitted for endgame content, or you start low and pick stuff up as you go.
I hope that’s the future.
Era Diving, where you venture to do content you want to do without being forced to do anything else before that.
All the while, your classic character is unaffected, and can remain at any part of the expansion section that is all joined together. All TBC would be joined together. All WotLK would be joined together (cross realm link), and people who go into Cata and want to stay there instead of going on, can also be linked together.
That would be true freedom of this game.
Uhhh, what? I’m a “hardened classic player”. I played original WoW before BC. I was one of the people asking for classic servers before they came out. And I completely support classic+ filled with massive changes, just like OSRS. OSRS is way better now than it was when I was 12. And classic+ is going to be way better than it was when I was 14. Get rid of premades. Change classes. Change everything. I’m excited to see where the game is going to go. Stop playing the same thing for 20 years straight bro.
Horrible L take. Go to retail. Has everything you want.
Thank you to everyone in this thread for literally demonstrating the slippery slope. If you give a retail player a muffin…
Go to era. Has everything you want.
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In fact so does SoD! And as long as I keep posting it ideally never have what you want!
It already has what I want. A lot of changes. And more coming.
No, wrong. Just more runes and raids =).
Devs even mentioned bringing in the possibility of multiple difficulties to appease both communities…
More retail than classic IMO
for classic players this is the first time you’ve gotten actual balance being made by blizzard for the first time in 15 years and it really shows
Ok lol. See you in a few months when there are more changes