Too many charges of charge

mobility/defensive capabilities across the board should be dialed back substantially.

No. If this were true, warriors would have been running leaper since Legion.

we arent in legion.

we are several expansions beyond legion. what wasnt true in legion, doesnt matter. its true now.

But… it’s not true now. Barbarian is an extremely niche talent choice. 5 minutes ago, you were unclear on what warrior talents existed, but now you are an expert?

ur trying to reason with a shaman who thinks warrior should have 1 charge on a 20 sec cd and heroic leap on a 45 sec cd and probably thinks thats too much while shaman gets all the new talents to keep melee away.

gigabrain casters

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people wonder why ranged like mages and locks are given a hundred different movement abilities and that’s just the icing on the cake

But but ghost wolf is all we need right

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isn’t it purgable also?

i remember those days lol

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its not true now?

do you really, truly believe warrior uptime isnt overtuned?

you really think taht? yossarion you too? yall really think warrior uptime is too low?

lmfao.

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i think fury has too much passive survivability and the 40% MS is dumb. Fury does too much stuff for the effort involved. however,

i play arms so even if i wanted barbarian i don’t get it. i think with the increased mobility or CC that other classes got going into DF that warrior mobility is probably fine.

what classes got so much mobility? it wasnt shamans. was it like hunters? did locks get some crazy mobility? its just port/gate like it has been since mop? spriests dont seem to have any new crazy mobilty… what are you specifically talking about?

all shamans can get thunderstorm, root totem, static link and with totemic projection you can actually move people with it. Depending on how you spec you can pick up spirit walk. Yeah maybe you don’t spec that way but people can, there is an overall increase in effects to create space for you. I’m not going to go into listing the other talents but there are, yeah Spriests and locks aren’t mobile. They certainly aren’t struggling.

Dude as an ele shaman, you should be able to keep a warrior away from you np rn.

gust of wind
shield unleash
thunderstorm
root

When I was playing my ele during prepatch I loved fighting warriors they couldn’t even get to me.

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you are dumb. those are dumb words you just wrote.

30s cd on tstorm, and a 60s cd on root totem.

how in the world do you effectively trade 30s storm + 60s root with 13s charge and 30s heroic leap.

lol maybe you ought to work on your ele play :man_shrugging:

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idk my ele sham does just fine with melee and getting away from them. maybe u just need some help.

good luck on ur climb king. dont let the fury warriors tilt u

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no it doesnt.

curious what these are

I hate to be that guy but, sounds like a “u” problem.

I feel like ele’s kit is the best it’s been in years for kiting melee.