Tolerating Multiboxing is a dangerous precedent to set

So do normal raid groups…

Are you THAT good you can take on 15+ people and survive?

I’ll let you in on a secret, that’s an admitted multiboxer. You’re not going to gain anything by actually trying to discuss multiboxing with them. They’re gaining an enormous in-game advantage through 3rd party software, it’s why you’ll see the same people shilling all of the old tired talking points about why it’s totally fine.

The second you put up a “Multiboxing is a pretty unfair advantage” thread, you’ll see the same faces jump into it within an hour, all parroting the exact same things.

“Hello fellow normal player, I sure do love multiboxers! Those cheap mats on the AH are great, I hate those evil price gouging gatherers!”

“Hello fellow normal player, what’s so wrong about people playing the game the way they want to play it? Don’t you have a heart?”

“Hello fellow normal player, I used to multibox, but it was so hard. I don’t do it anymore, but I’m deeply invested in making sure you all understand why there is nothing wrong with multiboxing, and to please stop suggesting it’s degrading the game!”

“Hello fellow normal player, there’s nothing wrong with 3rd party software providing in-game advantages, but also, even if it was banned, people would just use a KVM switch. We can’t possibly stop them, so why should we try? Please go back to buying my gametime via tokens, thanks.”

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You haven’t even tried looking, so it’s hard to take anything you say seriously.

People sure like to hide behind their classic characters when they post.

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It’s also true that people who don’t want to take advantage of opportunities they have access to will complain that those who did took unfair advantage over them.

There’s a large number of people out there who believe that getting a good job from a college education is essentially “cheating” over the people who dutifully did their menial jobs daily and think they should get preference. Just like in the game there are people who think they should have access to other people’s groups even though they don’t have the gear or the skills.

or engaging in any activity that grants an unfair advantage is considered cheating.

This is what the ToS say. Them not enforcing this, and using excuses to not enforce it, shows that they don’t take their own ToS seriously.

So why not just take the ToS down? Make it wild west then, anything goes.

Your keyboard drivers can do that so you still use them.

Read the whole thing instead of tiny pieces of it.

Also, here’s this again, just for you:

Semantics issue #1:
Is using one keyboard to send signals to multiple instances of WoW automation? In other words, what is the definition of automation as it applies to WoW?

Using a keyboard setup like what you’re describing? Not automation.
Setting up a macro with said keyboard that would, for example, automatically press Fireball each time it was available? Automation.

Semantics issue #2:
Software (such as Keyclone, Octopus, etc) to emulate a keyboard multiboxing solution is, by nature, “3rd party”. Is “3rd party software” synonymous with “bot” or “automation”? Are all types of “3rd party software” bannable?
Likewise, hardware, by nature, is “3rd party”. What kinds (or uses) of 3rd party hardware are bannable?

Is it sending an identical signal to all client windows or switching between them to send commands? Not automation.
Is it playing the game for you, or rather, for one of your client windows? Automation.
All hardware is considered neutral as long as its commands and features are not being used to automate gameplay.

Semantics issue #3:
Does multiboxing give a player an in-game advantage?

Yes --and so does grouping.

Therefore, can multiboxing be considered an exploit?

No. We consider it be an alternative playstyle; not everyone can do it, but if a person is willing to devote the concentration and capital to such a venture–legitimately–we’re perfectly fine with it. Five multiboxed accounts can be feared and CCed just like five solo accounts.

Semantics issue #4:
Multiboxing can be considered by some as “against the spirit of the game” or, at least, "against the spirit of the game the way I want to play it ". Is multiboxing against the “spirit of the game”?

See above.

Semantics issue #5:
Multiboxers provide Blizzard with a significant amount of extra income, and that, and only that, is the reason why is it currently allowed. True/false?

Patently false. All accounts should be allowed to be played as they see fit provided that they’re playing within our policies. In cases of mulitboxing, all accounts involved are playing the same as any other account, only simultaneously.

Semantics issue #6:
Multiboxing is only allowed because there is no reliable way for Blizzard to find, identify, and catch them. True/false?

Almostly hilariously false .

I guess we need to ban those that use Discord. It’s 3rd party, and it allows to coordinate between players and it unfair to those that are solo and don’t use it.

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Why is this relevant? You scared I could be your guildie? People have different opinions, going all gestapo on them isn’t a reasonable response.

To think I’ve been in this thread defending multi-boxers. And in arguing for their case, anti multi-boxers are mad at me too…

Even if something morally reprehensible is “lucrative”, someone with a functioning moral compass won’t do it. I, and many others, consider multiboxing to be a form of cheating. I absolutely have the technical ability to run multiple virtual machines, and cast keystrokes to them, even without relying on isboxer. I have a substantially powerful machine that it wouldn’t be too hard for me to run a full 5 man team. But I don’t, because it wouldn’t be compatible with my belief that it’s cheating. And nothing is worse than cheating in a multiplayer game.

I seriously doubt you’d be able to find a single example to back up that strawman. The only hate I’ve ever seen from working class, toward college educated workers, is primarily toward worthless middle management who got their position solely based on credentials, and show off incompetency on a daily basis.

Some people are just bad at pvp lol, are you saying if I head to Youtube right now I won’t be able to find someone beating a multiboxer? I’ve seen a warrior kill 8 druids in Naz but haven’t seen 15 yet :open_mouth:

But it’s been allowed since the dawn of time. You don’t remember seeing the multiboxer trains from vanilla?

Notascam I haven’t seen you in ages! How are ya you old hound?

You know it makes me happy to know that somewhere in your brain I exist :slight_smile: Like when you get up from your desk and drive to the store to get a case of beer if someone were to say “multiboxing” a part of your brain would think of Kaurmine :heart_eyes:

So is buying AOTC runs an unfair advantage? Or only if they aren’t paying you?

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I know my guildies, you ain’t my guildy. My guildmates have to intestinal fortitude to come up to me in my face and tell me if I am wrong. They don’t hide behind characters and whine behind peoples back.

Christ the amount of multibox loyalist and blizzard boot lickers on this forum is frightening

I agree with OP

The whole practice of having a bunch of accounts do automated actions seems like it’s skating a thin line

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Never make it to court, even though the act of owning a computer is in itself automation no lawyer is going to touch it. Now if you were a multi millionaire with a lot of money you could probably give it a go. However, if you were that rich you would probably be multi boxing as well. I know I would.

There is in-game voice these days, it’s not even equivalent, and you know it.

The day Blizzard provides a blizzard branded equivalent of isboxer with my sub, is the day I’ll stop saying that multiboxing is reliant on 3rd part software for it’s ingame advantage.

My 20 button mouse is reliant on third party software. Should I be banned as well?

If you say so. Either way, your desire to try to find my main and seek vengeance on me, shows maybe your side of the argument ain’t on the up and up.