Token for Classic era please!

No its pretty much the definition for most sane people who understand what actual p2w is, with this definition every online game is p2w, sick definition!

Its exactly what it means, its buying player power you cant get UNLESS you pay, this is literally what the words in the phrase mean.

It is the origin defintion and the current 1, youre changing it to fit your narrative like i said.

Google it before you embarrass yourself.

That’s why so many people disagree with you on this :joy: they are the crazy ones! :joy:

There is like 1000 different definions of it on google.

Which should i pick?

The 1 that backs up your narrative or mine?

Now you’re just being wilfully ignorant.

How?

Couldnt i say the same about you?

Here is from google and an example.

The central argument against P2W mechanics is that they’re simply unfair to players without money to spare. No matter how much you work on skill and strategy, being beaten by an inferior player who bought their way to success is not a rewarding feeling. If a player in chess could replace their pawns with queens, the feeling would be much the same.

Imagine if we played chess online and i paid for my 8 pawns to all be queens, and you didnt pay and you had 8 pawns.

This is literally the definition of pay 2 win.

Doesnt exist in wow, everything someone else gets you can get for free.

That’s not what the example given meant… lol

They are saying losing to p2wers feels like being cheated in the same way if someone could simply change their pawns to queens

You quoted something that doesn’t even present a definition for the phrase.

I’m going to disengage from this debate on the definition of pay to win. It’s pointless and you’re just going to be stubborn. My point is that paying real money for in game rewards is always bad. The WoW Token is bad.

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I’m going to disengage from this debate on the definition of pay to win. It’s pointless and you’re just going to be stubborn.

Yes and i added what would be pay 2 win in the chess example they gave.

If i bought queens to replace all 8 of my pawns and you couldnt do that cuz you didnt pay real money so you just had 8 pawns.

No matter how much you played you could never replace your 8 pawns with queens UNLESS YOU PAID.

Literally the definition of p2w, please try and keep up.

You’re insufferable and I’ve never read a post from you that has added value to a thread. Welcome to the ignore list.

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Yes but that’s not what they are saying p2w means in the example you have provided…

They are saying losing to p2wers feels like losing to cheaters

You’re insufferable and I’ve never read a post from you that has added value to a thread. Welcome to the ignore list.

Oh no a grey parser who cant clear content put me on ignore.

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Correct, because thats what losing to actual p2w people feels like.

You load into that chess match and youre ready to play some chess and you look across and the player youre against has 9 queens.

See what actual p2w is?

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No it’s feels asif you have been cheated…

Not good drink

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Correct, when its actual pay 2 win.

Walking around SW looking at 100 people all using Nelths tear, which 1 bought it?

Notice how when it is p2w you can identify it?

No, it’s literally saying losing to p2wers feels like losing to cheaters.

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Focus on the chess example.

Thats what p2w is.

Yes, losing to p2wers feels like losing to cheaters

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I forgot to mention i just want it for subs. You guys can keep arguing though lol

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