At the same time, killing the dragon 1st saves about 3-4 minutes of travel time.
And in an actual difficulty, you lust a double pull before the dragon and it’s back up for the elemental.
that’s fair, i haven’t run anything above 17-18ish there so far. i’ll have to keep an eye on what people are doing in higher levels!
Even at 17/18, that’s a faster strat.
Going elemental 1st is the tank saying “IDK if you can do this, so if we brick it let’s do it fast”
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I was not aware this forum allowed diary entries. Must’ve changed the rules recently…
haha yeah i mostly pug so… accurate
It’s what I did today… Didn’t even think twice about it… Healz? What Healz? I left group.
This is what I do too. If a group is being toxic or trolling, I say as much and leave. If I get the debuff, I just level an alt or gather for a while. Let them wait for a new tank. Or I’d just pull the boss I’m at and they can pound sand. Since tanks are unkillable, why not make use of it?
Wait, were you 4 manning this? You mentioned you, the two guildies, and another dps but not a third one. If you and the 2 other dps did a vote kick against the 2 guildies, you would have won. Only takes 3 yes’s.
Anyway, at least you got it done.
No it was a 5 man. In my mind I basically amalgamated him into the other pug who also has no clue as to what was going on. A VTK still wouldn’t have worked like you say. Here’s what would have happened if I tried to initiate a VTK:
- I initiate a VTK.
- 2 votes are against. Mine is for, 2 are unknown. A chance that at least one of the other 2 players votes no.
- VTK fails.
- One of the 2 SA players initiates a VTK as revenge.
- I vote no. But now more likely one of the 2 clueless pugs votes yes because they now just want to get the pop-up out of their face and don’t want to get involved any drama so they click whatever is most expedient regardless of how right or wrong it is.
- I get removed from the group.
It’s a fairly easy sequence of events to predict. Just like how if someone is afraid of getting VTK’d in a 100% pug. The easiest defence against someone you suspect is going to initiate a VTK against you is to initiate a VTK yourself against them but put the reason as the reason the other guy was gonna use against you. Why does this work? It works because no one reads who initiated the VTK. Yes I’ve seen this happen.
If you queue with 2 other people (meaning you, in theory, control 3/5ths of the votes), you require a 4/5th majority to kick someone. If you queue with 4/5 people, you have free reign over the dungeon.
Queuing with 3 against a friend group of 2 is basically a mexican standoff. Neither “side” can vote kick someone from the other without someone screwing up and/or getting bamboozled by a faux prompt (like imitating the kick on the tank but putting in “bad heals” as the reason).