No, they aren’t. The only people who seem to think LFR is actually raiding are people who literally only do the LFR and have to keep telling themselves that “they’re real raiders like the big kids making fun of them” so they don’t suffer an existential crisis when they accept their peak of progression is a complete and utter joke with regards to most anyone above that level.
I mean ffs, why not take your silly logic to its extreme? At the end of the day, we’re just fighting bosses that are designed on a timer. So clearly that means FF14 and WoW are the same game because they both have PvE and people do that PvE. Actually, know what, you also fight bosses in dungeons that operate much similar to in raids, sometimes even borrowing mechanics from raids in a lighter format. Well, you’re both essentially just doing PvE, so the guy in normal mode dungeons is the same as you because well hey, you’re both doing PvE. In a way, that level 5 guy on the starter island is also PvEing since he’s just fighting NPC mobs, he’s also on par with you because same activity and all, it’s only fighting NPCs in a video game.
Actually crap, with how easy LFR is I realized normal mode dungeons might actually be on par difficulty-wise. Real raiding btw, it’s so real and authentic of a raiding experience it buffs your damage, health, and healing for failing to kill the boss, you know, that thing that totally exists in Normal and above. Oh wait nvm, if your group is too bad to down the boss you don’t just get stronger with each wipe to ensure you down it. The game literally brickwalls you until you get better, or find better players to carry the remainder of the subpar group.
That’s reductio ad absurdum, assuming you actually care about avoiding fallacies more than you do trying to point them out in others. To be specific, it is so because you’re attempting to establish your own position by making mine out to lead to absurdity.
It’s also just bad, because I’ve been clear to what I’ve distilled raiding to be. Reducing it to the point of just killing NPCs in PvE is entirely your own fabrication.
Yes.
Of raiding.
Which is still raiding.
Same as reading a book for kids is still reading.
No one except for Barooh, Snozh and probably some others I’ve forgotten over the course of these hundreds of posts. Unless they weren’t arguing that, but then I don’t see why one would feel the need to go on a tirade about it in that case.
You sure did, friend.
Go on and move the goalpost now, though, I’ll wait.
I don’t identify nor do I wish to be identified as a raider ever, but if having the last word will make you feel better then please, hereafter respond.
Maybe fold the L I handed you earlier into a nice W to help you better play pretend.
When OP makes valid point about LFR never giving a seasonal reward, then a bunch of people link rare drop mounts from individual bosses, and even a WoW anniversary mount… LOL. Not even close to the same thing folks.
