To everybody asking to have LFR removed

[Ddzz-illidan]

@Maizou-proudmoore

@Wariya-stormrage

They failed because their management did not understand the hardcore and ignored the casuals

They failed because they outright made the game hostile to casuals, and admitted it was done on purpose.

Casuals are the backbone of any MMO.

And the direction Blizzard has been taking this past month, that a disturbing amount of CC members agree with, in treating casual players like we don’t matter, is ridiculous.

You constantly misrepresent SO MUCH STUFF when you make these horrible arguments.

WildStar did not ignore their casuals. The game was just not developed enough nor did it have the funding to survive the rushed and buggy launch to allow it to get to a viable form.

Day 1 Vanilla WoW would not survive today if it had WildStar’s funding, but it had the money to keep going.

TheLazyPeon on Twitter: “Remember WildStar? Would you revisit or try that MMORPG if it was still around today?” / Twitter

Lazy Peon made a tweet today asking if people would revisit WildStar, and all of the positive responses to it are highlighting very casual focused things like

the Story
the world
the transmog
the customization
and the unmatched player housing.

Do you think this feature and video was aimed at hardcores?

WildStar - Housing Trailer - YouTube

Look at what people could do in it

Wildstar AMAZING Player Made and Customized House (Wildstar Housing Gameplay) - YouTube

it was an amazing, casual focused feature. Probably the best housing in any MMORPG ever made.

Do you think this customization was for hardcore players?

WildStar DevSpeak: Customization - YouTube

Just admit you didn’t play the game lmao

The problem is that it didn’t have the backing of a major franchise to survive a bumpy launch, but NCSoft rushed it out anyway. Why don’t you ever mention all the other MMORPG’s with heavy casual focused MMORPG’s that also died in a similar timespan?

Your other problem is misrepresenting who the casual players actually are. The actual casual players that “pay the bills” are not the ones on the forum starting a war, racking up tens of thousands of posts instead of playing the game. The real casuals that pay the bills are the ones that don’t have a care in the world about your petty battles and log on when they can, play a bit, and log off totally unbothered or unaware that you are representing them in your personal fight.

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

You assume that is the reason why we don’t do normals or higher, that’s your assumption of why other people do or don’t do things.

Many of us don’t sit and play for hours on end, we have responsibilities that paramount a game. Also, some people have no interest in being top geared and “hardcore”, we just want a more relaxed style and that threatens you, somehow. Why do you care how I play?

Why do you feel a need to protest a play system set forth for non “hardcore” people? Don’t tell me why I “refuse” to play your way, and then put some responsibility on me that isn’t rational.

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

@Jaylock-nerzhul

I just wish everyone who is still complaining about this would just uninstall and unsub at this point.

You sound very immature and insecure. How about just playing the way you play and stop trying to influence how other people play?

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

@Jaylock-nerzhul

I just wish everyone who is still complaining about this would just uninstall and unsub at this point.

You could have easily cleared normal by now instead of complaining as much as you and others do on these boards.

Try having a little pride and a little dignity instead of demanding everything be handed to you. Geeze.

Are you always this verbally abusive to anyone that has diverse viewpoints?

[Jaylock-nerzhul (Jaylock)]

Verbally abusive?

Its being abusive to have the opinion that I like when some rewards require a little more effort?

Its being abusive to not want to hear complaining from people unwilling to put that effort in for a specific reward they want?

Geeze.

Edit: Also its not my job to influence how others play the game, its Blizzard’s job. And they are doing a fine job in my honest opinion. If you want the slime cat mount, you do normal. End of discussion. I could care less how you play the game.

[Ddzz-illidan]

I still just don’t understand how there are people acting like you can’t have a job and do 3 normal raids one time over the next 4 months

one dude said household chores prevent him from being able to ffs.

what planet are you guys on lmao

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

@Ddzz-illidan

I still just don’t understand how there are people acting like you can’t have a job and do 3 normal raids one time over the next 4 months

Bigger question is: why do you care?

[Ddzz-illidan]

Care about what?

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

@Jaylock-nerzhul

Verbally abusive?

@Jaylock-nerzhul

I just wish everyone who is still complaining about this would just uninstall and unsub at this point.

You could have easily cleared normal by now instead of complaining as much as you

@Jaylock-nerzhul

Try having a little pride and a little dignity instead of demanding everything be handed to you

Says the guy upset over a play style.

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

@Ddzz-illidan

Care about what?

Go troll somewhere else.

[Ddzz-illidan]

@Nâthyraa-silvermoon

@Jaylock-nerzhul

Verbally abusive?

@Jaylock-nerzhul

I just wish everyone who is still complaining about this would just uninstall and unsub at this point.

You could have easily cleared normal by now instead of complaining as much as you

@Jaylock-nerzhul

Try having a little pride and a little dignity instead of demanding everything be handed to you

Says the guy upset over a play style.

bIgGeR qUeStIoN iS wHy dO yOu cArE

[Wristtwitch-boulderfist]

‘Casuals’ have been the most insufferable people on these forums. Jesus Christ

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

@Ddzz-illidan

bIgGeR qUeStIoN iS wHy dO yOu cArE

You’re just not getting this. They want to remove a part of the game because they don’t like it. Not for any rational reasons. People who play this method are defending it.

[Ddzz-illidan]

Profile - Nâthyraa-silvermoon - World of Warcraft Forums (blizzard.com)

bro your whole page is just fighting some battles against “hardcore WoW players” and you’re acting like you aren’t just as toxic as the people you’ve made up to argue against lmao

@Nâthyraa-silvermoon

They want to remove a part of the game because they don’t like it.

who is “they?”

go find them and report back.

here’s a tip: hardcore WoW players don’t do normal and they don’t care whether or not you do.

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

@Wristtwitch-boulderfist

Casuals’ have been the most insufferable people on these forums. Jesus Christ

Now there’s the tolerance!

[Aerathor-windrunner]

A lot of people don’t want to join a guild and spend hours just trying to get a raid together, or putting up with guild BS. LFR lets people who don’t want to do all that at least see the raid content and cutscenes (yes I know they just show the cutscenes to you now once the raid is cleared).

[Jaylock-nerzhul (Jaylock)]

Its all just excuses because of various reasons.

The reason I suspect is they have some sort of mental block, or vendetta against actually having to interact with other people and coordinate to overcome obstacles.

It could be because of laziness, incompetence, entitlement, instant gratification attitude, etc. Maybe its a combination of those things. And when pressed and asked what it is, they mask the real reason with “I don’t have time to do xyz activity in the game”, YET they have full 252 cypher gear, have millions of mounts and collections that take HOURS and HOURS to get. Farming Zerith Mortis day in and day out is one of the most tedious and time consuming activities. Rare hunting can take a couple hours each day to get all the cypher knowledge necessary to upgrade your cypher gear.

The bottom line, if it isn’t something they can click a button, be automatically transported inside the instance, have fail-safe buffs (determination) that guarantee success, have the ability to not have to say a word to people, they don’t want to participate. Its sad really.

[Nâthyraa-silvermoon]

@Ddzz-illidan

bro your whole page is just fighting some battles against “hardcore WoW players” and you’re acting like you aren’t just as toxic as the people you’ve made up to argue against lmao

@Nâthyraa-silvermoon

They want to remove a part of the game because they don’t like it.

who is “they?”

go find them and report back.

So, you go do a history bash to get your point across? You’re just a troll, and I’m done feeding you.

[Zoumz-zuljin (Zoumz)]

I would rather they make LFR a storymode with npcs so queues aren’t a problem and so you can get it done quick and that it wasn’t much part of the gear loop like it was in WoD.

Current LFR design doesn’t really serve anyone well, it’s raiding made for people that don’t like raiding.

It only adds an extra step between normal. Making it harder for people to get into raiding imo.

[Ddzz-illidan]

@Nâthyraa-silvermoon

So, you go do a history bash to get your point across? You’re just a troll, and I’m done feeding you.

why is this important to anyone? you don’t need to post this lmao. just don’t respond?

i asked you a question. You didn’t answer.