Think more in terms of ones that think their way in the only way to get things done. Like if the Titans want to eradicate the Old Gods at the cost of those of us living on Azeroth, uh-oh, but if say like we suggest being a surgical strike team to deal with the corruption, thus saving ourselves AND filling the desires of the Titians then why not do that instead?
It is more “they have a point from their perspective” as in they are not “wrong” but “they are trying to kill us” in the sense that they don’t care about collateral damage as long as their goals are met.
Well that was the Horde fantasy who knows what it is now after BFA like it SHOULD of been the horde on the defensive against an aggressive alliance that still blamed us for the death of Varian and believed the lies of Genn that Sylvanas attacked first which is what this cinematic seemed to imply with the line “Ours is a cycle of hatred… Alliances forged and broken… We have paid the price for sharing this world and we have forgotten what made us strong”.
But well instead we got this mess
Oh also to add onto this the whole “The Horde is Nothing” thing hurts so much after this cinematic which is by far my favourite cinematic unfortunately ruined by awful writing.
just because they ended up doing something that ended up being good for us, does not mean they are good. they didn’t save us, they were saving the world soul.
Well they didn’t really we didn’t exist when the old gods arrived there was only Elementals, the old gods then presumably created the first flesh and blood races on Azeroth and then the Titans would show up take over reforming the world in their image and creating Titan constructs bound to their will to care for the planet.
I seem to recall Iain McDiarmid saying in an interview that one his favorite parts of playing Palpatine was that it was a rare case of an objectively, truly evil antagonist. No shades of grey, no hope for redemption. The bad guy. Simple.
I’m not going to defend Blizzard writing or storytelling or whatever, but I will say “enemy of our enemy” =/= “our friend”, despite how that saying goes.
Besides, don’t forget that a very large portion of the playable races are actually titan creations that were corrupted and warped by the Old Gods. Pretty sure if there was ever going to be a reason for the Titans to want us dead, it’d be that.
Think of it this way. Too much order is as bad as discord. Do you really wanna live in a HOA that’s too into your business that they demand to have access to your garage and determine what kind of paint you can only have, INSIDE OF YOUR HOUSE?!
That’s basically what the Titans are. They CLAIM to be everything they have done we’ve seen on Azeroth, they are ‘creators’ when clearly not, if they’re capable of lying, no doubt they have skeletons in their closets, the whole situation about Titans is exactly the subtly of Omni-man from Invincible, subtle in his very intention, ‘saving’ a planet because of ulterior motives they never want you to know.
Everything revealed in this Expansion, even if it was Retconned to hell, makes far more sense than anything. Hell, it makes more sense that if you truly dig deep enough. I realized why Primalists are hellbent after The Emerald Dream and not the other such as the Firelands, a supposed ‘creation’ of the Titans. The Emerald Dream is a elemental plane for the Elemental Spirit. At least that’s my speculation…
Point being, anybody that is a representation of a living, sentient being of their cosmological forces, aren’t really good and want Azeroth for something, and we don’t know why still.
The Titans were never the good guys, though. They genuinely do not care about us, and have on numerous occasions since Wrath and even before (see: Y’shaarj) done things for their own sake with zero regard for life on Azeroth.
Can’t argue with that. Sometimes you just need a truly irredeemably evil villain that is just evil for evils sake. Like Big Jack Horner. It’s weirdly refreshing for there to be an actual evil villain that isn’t playing the sympathetic card or isn’t right on his own way.
titans coming was good but them disapearing without safeguards over there keepers was bad.
many of the titan creations where corrupted through the curse of flesh yet, there derectives where unclear so they fell to madness.
mogu for example.
vrykul aswell.
oydin, loki, and the whole of ulduar was easily corrupted.
places of unimaginable power where given to people they trusted that we needed to destroy just to save the earth.
alganon for example.
they should have made pacts with the elemental lords instead of banishing them imo
Titans show up and Tyr is standing there with them. We say we disagree and this is not how events truly played out after learning of events where some void creatures/beings were actually helpful/good. Titans go all laser eyed and darkness surrounds their faces.
Alexstrasza is told to remove them from their site. She denies and splits from the titans so the titans begin to reactivate purging protocols we once thought disabled. Tyr splits with the titans and joins our rebel force as we race to stop the purge in a crazy raid. At the near end of it when we are about to fail Azeroth awakens and the titans think that she is about to join them. But instead she sides with her children, us, and together we and the titans must fight together against titanic creations and dragons that sided with them.
Sargeras becomes freed and Illidan joins us in the last raid to help stop the threat. In the middle of this void and legion forces all join into the fight attacking whoever while trying to take advantage of the chao to accomplish their own goals.
