Titanforging and Warforging make me upset

[Haavi-barthilas (Haavi)]

@Silverbolt-shadowmoon

But it works against that as no one needs to do any organized content because it doesn’t give any better rewards, at least in the attainable skill range.

Warfront just needs to give guaranteed LFR level gear. Because it is still a guaranteed drop, instead of LFR that can wipe and you can get nothing at all. So still better. Maaaaybe 5 ilvl higher than LFR just to offset the 2 weeks cycle.

Edit:
And PvP should give like 5 ilevels below mythic 0 for 2s under 1400 rating as it’s easy to group for but still requires a group of two. And go from there. 3s under 1400 can give M0 item level because 3s is generally more difficult to yolo. RBGs can actually arguably reward normal raid gear even under 1400 rating, because it takes some effort to gather a team and yolo win it, just like gather a pug raid and kill a boss or two in normal raid.

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Agreed. I also believe the same to be true for M+ caches, it should be enough that you get guaranteed rewards (from content not guaranteed)rather than you requiring a significant increase in rewards.
It makes the content also feel less required but more a bonus for doing what you wanted to do in the first place.

Warfronts and LFR are the same, warfronts are easier more guaranteed, personally I would decrease the rewards to 335 (arathi) with 345 rewards for the quest.
That way it’s around LFR the content it is designed around but also provides a slight bonus occasionally (since the rewards are always guaranteed)