Tinkers! And the problem with Goblins

[Darazor-wyrmrest-accord]

@Copperfield-silvermoon

Profession choice used to be an equally important choice,

*>**Used to be an important choice
*>**Everyone in Classic forced to pick Eng if they want to PVP
*>**When Eng items were banned from PVP tournies, people stopped funneling the class giving players choice to pick a profession they liked.

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

@Copperfield-silvermoon

Not every archetype gets to make it into WoW as it was designed in Warcraft apparently. Because ya know Death knights is how necromancers got in apparently.

Death Knight In Warcraft 3:
Raises the Dead, Empowers the Undead. can heal the Undead. Fights with a Sword.

Death Knight In WoW: Raises the dead, Empowers the Undead, can heal the Undead, Fights with a Sword.

And according to you, you actually think that

Tinkers: Which Use Missile Barrages, Mechs, and Pocket factories
You actually think that’s equal to
Engineer: Which uses none of the above in combat.

[Benzoe-moon-guard]

I see where you’re coming from, but if you want to tank, wouldn’t you just go Protection?

[Copperfield-silvermoon]

Yeah Death Knights from WoW, is Death Knights from Warcraft.

But Death Knights from WoW are not Necromancers from Warcraft.

Warcraft Necromancers are from the Kirin Tor, wear cloth, command the dead not just summon them, and don’t use a sword.

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

@Copperfield-silvermoon

But Death Knights from WoW are not Necromancers from Warcraft.

Then why do you have all of Necromancer’s abilities?

@Copperfield-silvermoon

Warcraft Necromancers are from the Kirin Tor, wear cloth, command the dead not just summon them, and don’t use a sword.

So you really want a class that is a rehash of the themes of an existing class. With some of the exact same abilities?

[Copperfield-silvermoon]

It’s more for tight nitch groups really. Sometimes you would want an offtank that could offer strong dps. Back then it would be a warrior in a different spec using a shield. Although not all of them would use the shield but then their priests would yell at them lol.

[Copperfield-silvermoon]

It’s no more rehash then Paladin to Priest, Rogue to Feral Druid, or Monk. Mages to Warlocks or even Shamans. All these classes if you break them down as far as your trying to break down the Necromancer are all the same thing.

[Meezah-moon-guard]

omg tinkers suck, they’re not even a proper class, more like a profession any class could technically be able to do, like engineering, if anything they ARE just engineers but with extra stuff.
yeah yeah I know they’re part of the warcraft lore, you’ve said that multiple times over multiple threads so far, it doesn’t make them fun, interesting or even viable for wow though.

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

So you want more Rehashes?
You don’t want something original?

You want an uninspired fantasy trope of a class, when you already have a class that does something similar?

Also: Rogue and Druid are not a good comparison. The entire purpose of druid is that it literally turns into other existing classes.

[Copperfield-silvermoon]

It is not original, As the poster above you stated. Engineering.

Also

@Liianas-khaz-modan

Also: Rouge

It’s Rogue, not a rouge. Rogues makes things red, Rouge is just red.

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

@Meezah-moon-guard

omg tinkers suck, they’re not even a proper class,

Not yet they aren’t.

@Meezah-moon-guard

if anything they ARE just engineers but with extra stuff.

Engineers don’t have any of Tinkers abilities. Meezah. You’ve asininely repeated yourself enough to know that already.

@Meezah-moon-guard

yeah yeah I know they’re part of the warcraft lore, you’ve said that multiple times over multiple threads so far, it doesn’t make them fun, interesting or even viable for wow though.

Actually it does.

Death Knights. Monks, and Demon Hunters were all part of Warcraft 3, and now their classes.

You see that Tinker is part of Warcraft 3. but for some reason you think that doesn’t work in their favor?

You’re a cute Vulpera but I guess there’s no brains between those big ears if you think Logic applies in one situation and doesn’t apply in the next.

@Copperfield-silvermoon

It’s Rogue, not a rouge. Rogues makes things red, Rouge is just red.

Oh no. I made a spelling error.
I guess my entire point is irrelevant.

[Copperfield-silvermoon]

@Liianas-khaz-modan

You see that Necromancer is part of Warcraft 3. but for some reason you think that doesn’t work in their favor?

Fixed that for you.

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

Necromancers weren’t a Hero unit.

Death Knights were though.
That’s why you have Death Knight abilities AND Necromancer abilities.

Fixed that for you

[Buz-alterac-mountains]

@Liianas-khaz-modan

So you see, Goblins are the ONLY Race in World of Warcraft that CAN’T PLAY as all 3 group roles on 1 Character.

Goblins do not have Access to Druid, Paladin, Or Monk, and as such it is IMPOSSIBLE To have a Single Goblin Character capable of playing all 3 dungeon roles.

Interesting realization

Never thought about it before.

[Meezah-moon-guard]

Except DKs, Monks and DHs are quite interesting and far more fitting the entire theme of a magic fantasy world like WoW.
I don’t care if tinkers existed then, they are a dumb concept that would fit better into futuristic themed mmos rather than wow.
Making tinkers would be a complete waste of time, at this point if tinker is the only option I would rather never have a new class again and just have Blizzard fix and balance the existing ones, it would be a better use of their time and money.

[Liianas-khaz-modan]

There’s a million and one reasons to add Tinkers and you have Gnomes like Copperfield who will go 100 posts deep asking for a class we already have.

@Meezah-moon-guard

Except DKs, Monks and DHs are quite interesting and far more fitting the entire theme of a magic fantasy world like WoW.

So you think Tinkers don’t fit in WoW?
But they’re in Every expansion, everywhere on Azeroth, and even in Warcraft 3.

So that’s just wrong. Empirically and provably wrong.

@Meezah-moon-guard

I don’t care if tinkers existed then, they are a dumb concept that would fit better into futuristic themed mmos rather than wow.

Then why are in WoW?

@Meezah-moon-guard

Making tinkers would be a complete waste of time, at this point if tinker is the only option I would rather never have a new class again and just have Blizzard fix and balance the existing ones, it would be a better use of their time and money.

Welp. Just don’t play it if you don’t like it.

No one cares if you don’t like it.
I don’t like Warlocks so I don’t play warlocks.

I don’t then go and argue that Warlocks should go to a different MMO, that would make me look like an Idiot.

[Darazor-wyrmrest-accord]

@Meezah-moon-guard

I don’t care if tinkers existed then, they are a dumb concept that would fit better into futuristic themed mmos rather than wow.

Tinkers existed in Warcraft 3, Classic WoW and in other Warcraft IPs as well from Hearthstone to Heroes of The storm… denying or trying to claim it isnt a “WoW” is just silly.

Exiles Reach the new starting experience you literally get help from a Tinker NPC.

One of The Island Expedition teams you fight is an entire team of Tinkers.

[Benzoe-moon-guard]

@Meezah-moon-guard

they’re not even a proper class

Then Blizzard will make them a proper class. Don’t pretend like Tinkerers are an impossible concept that can’t exist because of how Engineers are currently designed. Besides, what about Mages and Enchanting? The two can easily coexist.

[Mkali-thrall]

I would definitely buy the clockwork dragon on the store for a tinker

[Copperfield-silvermoon]

Then the same argument can be applied to Death Knights and Necromancers.