They will never balance the current classes its best to move on from ever expecting anything will be balanced in this game.
They’ve come fairly close in the past. Adding more classes just complicates things.
Frankly I don’t get this point. They only ever do like 2 balance patches every expansion. New classes or no.
I get wanting to prioritize class balance. But that will never happen
That was only the case in BFA. They used to do more frequent balance patches.
Heck, in Legion they changed things every few months it seemed.
Edit: Anyway, my point is that they could better allocate the resources imo.
It’s okay for you to want tinkers and it’s okay for me to disagree.
We can’t really reach what NPCs can do anyway, profession NPC and Class NPC alike.
What do they even do that Engineering can’t, exactly? Guns, mechs, explosives, vehicles, turrets, general gadgets, all of that is in Engineering. Though the combat stuff is fairly weak, it’s still there.
It just seems like Tinker would be a repeat of DH’s and Demonology. Gutting something for the new thing.
Legion and WoD both disproved that.
We got little tweaks throughout legion. but only 1 or 2 balance patches. like every expansion.
Might I add. We GOT a class in legion.
They make guns. but only hunters can use them,
They make mounts. Not mechs.
They look like mechs but theyre mounts
this one isn’t even true.
Engineers aren’t anything like Tinkers.
They have bombs on 5 minute cooldowns. that’s not even close to a class
Tinkers have Cluster rockets. Combat mechs.
They can tank, dps, and heal
I bet next class is going to be Spell Breaker
Why is that?
We got tons of tweeks and changes during legion, especially early on. lol
WoD was less of everything.
Doesn’t this hinder you point? we got a class in Legion…
A garbage class like this is literally never going to happen.
Hey, truthful is truthful regardless of if it hinders a point or not.
Anyway, I don’t think it really does because my argument had more than one point. I’d rather them focus on class balance and other features such as professions than make another class. I’d also rather them design a system that isn’t junk for 10.0 instead of making Tinkers or another class.
Heck, take design resources out of it and I’d rather them add a fourth spec to a handful of classes before adding Tinkers. lol
Could always be a Marksman with Engineering
We USE it as a mount, but it’s still a mech.
https://www.wowhead.com/item=132509/deployable-bullet-dispenser
Well while not a cluster rocket, they do have rocket launchers.
https://www.wowhead.com/item=23836/goblin-rocket-launcher
Outside of being able to do all roles, it really just seems like you want engineer to get more toys. I’m still not seeing what makes an entire class here.
It brings me back again to the DH and Demonology thing. Demo was gutted so DH’s could have their stuff, which is the only result I can see from turning Engineering into a full-fledged class.
I guess that’s fair.
I totally understand wanting to prioritize better progression design, better professions, better everything.
But, I don’t think blizzard wants to do that.
simply put, classes sell expansions.
Then I’m a Hunter. I use animal aspects and stuff.
Hell. Volley, one of marksman’s strongest abilities fires arrows exclusively.
You actually think that’s equivalent to mechs people use in combat?
Again, as a long cooldown trinket locked to another class.
Also, has it occured to you that none of this is relevant to current engineering.
Are you suggesting I use level 29 trinkets?
Keep in mind, Blizzard is doing this already.
We’ve have Tinker abilities for a Tinker class in game.
They have 3 specs, Level requirements, and cooldowns.
The Tank is in a mech suit
The Healer uses Healbots and Healing grenades
And the Dps Uses Bombs and Turrets.
Also. I admit I was wrong about the turrets, but they’re irrelevant anyways.
Considering engineer doesn’t have those things anymore it’s seeming likely.
You’re not wrong there for sure. They definitely do sell expansions.
Personally I know its likely.
I hope it happens
This is a fantasy the profession doesn’t have.
It’s a fantasy the classes don’t have.
And it’s Clearly part of the universe.
I get what you’re saying. So Tinker should be a class that uses guns, benefits from intellect as a primary stat, and can also tame mechanical npcs as pets.
And tanks with mech suits. Don’t forget about those.
Personally I think tinkers are dumb and don’t want to see resources spent on developing them. I want actual class balance for existing classes first.
I mean. WoW is 16 years old, and it’s been unbalanced the whole time.
It will remain unbalanced. New classes or no.