Timewalking dungeons should give loot and tokens ONLY when the dungeon is full finished

Well I dream of a world where the META isnt always the first choice.

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Que up with some friends then

For you …

bahahahahahaha Naw, Keep it the way it is

yea I don’t give an opinion for other people thats not how it works

Hmm, not quite sure you understand what meta is then

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But your quite open to choosing who does and doesn’t do TW though, or how fast they go.

I can see what they are getting at here. Yes there are 80 in groups. But TW is not just 80s. It’s a mixed bag. Some count on more bosses for a dungeon for the experience as they are worth more than world and faster working in group. Also, drop better gear for levelers, Sure they may grow out of it quickly, but they have to out grow it first!

The 80s doing it quickly, yes I agree with what you are saying, but like I said above. it’s not only you playing, and 80’s may need the TW gear to get into heriocs then LFR (or guild, LFR was just an example). So, not all 80’s are at the same lvl. They may even have the starter pack from warbound stuff, but TW can also out level this, depending on the roll that it does on the gear. Though, I have seen DM end in disaster and groups disband, because tank has thought one boss, not thougt of letting anyone know upon entering. Think people are mind reader. The tank is 80. The healer is 30. At the time I was dps. around about 75. Other was about 50. Even though tank was 80, because your level is modified, you told no one. The tank eventually gets slaughtered, asks where everyone else is, especially the heals, leaves in huff. But they are the one to blame because they think everyone else are mind readers and didn’t care to have a look at the group, also to make sure that everyone had done the dungeon or at least done it recently. Or done the one boss method (though this can still backfire if prepared). It lies on the tank, though blames everyone else. This is why you have to think of everyone else in the group, be it all 80 (trying to gear for 80’s stuff) or different lvls. You are matched to that lvls gear value, sure you still may be higher, but not everyone is.

So lets balance it out. Sure, if you skip some or many bosses it may be faster. Though one or many disasters, there goes your 30 min plan. Getting right, rather than wrong and doing a few more bosses, because with most gear lvls they last less than 30 secs or at most 2 mins on harder ones I have seen. Is better than trying to do one, dying 5 times (for example) which adds more than if you had done more bosses. Finally, but in the same sphere, with the 80s that have just levels or people levelling, they may need or want the bosses for better/xtra gear or even better experience, the reason that people did dungeons in the past. The actual reason some of the now many (maybe not all) 80s that are skipping bosses had done them also in the past.

Think back to 1955, when you were playing how you did them, and how you wanted to be treated. Maybe not how, but how you wanted too. Oops not 1955. That’s Back to the future. Well, same point, in the past. Shouldn’t you treat the fellow levelling players with that same respect! I’m sure if you do, it will hopefully be past on in the future when they are in your position as well.

I can usually take the extra bosses or leave them. It’s actually more badges per hour if you get in and out faster.

So…let’s just allow people to engage with the content in a way that doesn’t actually hurt anyone, yeah?

You’re not doing 5 dungeons in 30 minutes, and none of the Timewalking dungeons will take you 20 minutes for a single run. Even ZF, the bosses fall over in less than a minute.

Just need the Vulak’Aerr treatment for these TW dungeons. Any bosses not killed will be summoned by the final boss when it’s engaged.
Good times!

I miss some of Everquest’s more punishing features. :rofl:

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I don’t care about the badges, I just want completion for the weekly. And if you’re leveling you get more exp/hour for completing than from doing every boss. Or so I’ve read. That being said i wouldn’t care if they made downing all bosses a criteria for completion. :see_no_evil::hear_no_evil::speak_no_evil:

hurr durrr OP it’s about the end of dungeon xp, or credit towards the weekly, not about the useless trash off individual bosses.

you 5000% don’t need the trash gear from TW to gear up.

honestly, people need to just go with what the group wants and leave the whining at the door.

You can if you are twinking, been there done that.

How many people actually care about the tokens? Most people are just using it to power level alts and the vast majority of the XP comes from completion lol.

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even if you care about the tokens, the pittance you get off individual bosses isn’t worth worrying about.

Didn’t even try to argue for your point here, huh? “Hurr durr do what I want”

I only care about the Vault credit. Because I’m capped on Valorstones and don’t have Runed Crests. So I use the tokens to buy Runed Crests. :grin:

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ain’t nobody doing all that garbage to fight Gahz’rilla.