Time to Face Reality

I have done that in the span of a global, meaning no one could react to being dead instantly.

With what ability?

2400 Chaos bolt followed by a 750 damage shadowburn.

What is the cast time on Chaos Bolt?

2.5 seconds, however I said that damage was done in the span of a global, what I meant by that is all the damage hit them in less than 1.5 seconds.

Yes you can react to that chaos bolt going off, try to stop it, etc… but the fact that those numbers exist is insane.

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Im not really trying to get into an argument about it. But I think most people are concerned with damage that doesnt have counter-play.

MY biggest argument is something needs to be done to draw fights out a bit and actually allow counterplay to happen.

People are getting exploded in seconds, even with the 30% hp buff in pvp. Saying these things arent true anymore like in your OP is just incorrect.

I have 2800 hp in STV with the buff, I have been killed numerous times in the span of 1-3 seconds.

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My afflic lock can’t 1 shot :sob:

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I’m ok with shadowpriests being OP. That’s how it should be. Just dispel.

I dont think any class can truly one shot in pvp if the person is actually geared correctly for a pvp environment.

Can they do enough damage simultaneously to kill someone for a pseudo oneshot? Absolutely

I was hopeful that underperforming classes would be made better. If every class should be around 10 on the strength meter, I feel like the strongest classes are about a 20, and the weakest is like 15. They just made everything too strong.

The dots arent the problem…

WSG is still “have priests and win”. It’s almost certainly the side with more priests wins. Spriests are top damage and have insane survivability and healing priests are top healers by a mile.

Ok my afflic lock can’t do this either lol

And if you don’t have priests or pallies on your side, then what?

People trolling, Classic was just as imbalanced as this. I can’t think of a time where pvp was completely balanced… Wotlk, Warriors/Pally and DKS were op the entire expansion. Retail still has it’s imbalances and 1 shots what are people talking about chill tf out and vibe.

I’m not sure where the point is, but there’s a point where something is so overtuned that it goes beyond imbalance and just “not an interaction.”

Hunter pets soloing players with EotB was one of those
Starsurge dumpstering players in 1-3 hits from 40 yards was another
Preist SW:D critting for 1200 is another.

Warriors, Paladins, Rogues, and to a lesser extent Enhance shamans are definitely getting pooped on in PvP from range.

But up close they are still a menace to range.

PvP sucked in vanilla and still does in SOD. Just raid log and play another game. That’s your only option

ohhh noooo the SW:D class doesn’t want to be nerfed!

walks away

I’m agree.