Delves is fine the way it is , if you add more tiers Blizzard would add a carrot to it for players to keep doing it . Which is obviously gonna be mythic track rewards, at that point you officially hurt group based content , why rely on 20 or 5 random knuckleheads when you can do it on your own
The so called competition is only for like top 20 ,everyone else would struggle getting players and die off
You’re acting like HoF won’t be filled in the first week for delves.
I still say you haven’t made any valid points. You claim too much development on Delves would be a waste of time better spent elsewhere. Elsewhere on what? They’re dumbing down the game to get rid of addons. Development seems mostly focused on fixing a bad UI so that it can replicate what UI addons currently provide. There’s an answer that fixes that and it doesn’t involve allowing Weak Auras and DBM to provide verbal warnings or arrows. I even think they’ve figured it out for themselves given what was posted recently.
Capping at heroic? That puts limits on an RPG. Yes it’s an MMO, yes the best experience in WoW is group content. But some people just don’t want to and their money helps fund the content I want, I want Blizzard to give them something too.
Everyone has limits. Sometimes that’s time or ability. Where possible, everyone playing a game should enjoy playing it. That does mean that some areas of the game will be off limits, because you won’t enjoy it. That does mean that you can’t have everything. But adding a little more when existing content gets tired or too easy is not a big ask. Especially if it’s done under the understanding that power rewards won’t necessarily increase, or if they do only to certain point so they don’t make more difficult content redundant, but other types of rewards could be offered instead.
no thanks. I like knowing when I have finished content. doing the same thing over and over again is boring enough without adding more steps to the treadmill
That works for some, for others the only time for them to get any sleep is when the kids are finally down.
I mean this is a fair take.
The ever moving hamster wheel approach to live service games gets tiresome.
Looter shooter genre right now. 
Your m or raid q will not get shorter by jacking with delves, nor will the q get longer. If delves get better, don’t run them. Simple yeah? To you, you are the MC, to everyone else,an NPC. Figure that out.
Nah. How about this, the content, difficulty, AND rewards scale infinitely, and if folks stop doing Mythic Keys, that’ll tell us everything we need to know about that system won’t it?
Gear near enough hard resets at the start of a patch, and if you’ve been engaged with delves throughout the previous one you’ll be near enough as geared as a mythic raider would be anyway.
The HoF for nemesis likely won’t survive past the first week, when gear from other sources isn’t even available.
You’re free to have your own opinion. You’re just wrong.
I never specified an elsewhere.
Yep catering to players like yourself almost killed the game in WoD. We shall see how bad it gets.
Yes. Which part of the difficulty of delves is not equal to rewards past hero track was confusing to you?
Ok? You get gear from the content you do. If you can’t mythic raid because of “limits” then you don’t get mythic track gear. It’s not a hard concept.
It’s cute you think I do content that has a Que.
This isn’t a debate you want to be in.
I already don’t run them past the first week. You’re completely missing the point.
Honestly you aren’t qualified for this conversation.
I think if they did it so that it wasn’t seasonal and those who couldnt do it during that rotation can still go back and overgear to get whatever toys, mogs, or mounts they put in there (maybe have fun time gated titles only for folks who wanna do them while they are a challenge) then it might not be as much if an issue. Nothing to really complain about if there is literally zero power rewards.
We had it with Torghast.
People complained it was too hard
Yeah, I looked at Dratnos video talking about it this morning even he said something similar along with 1k player region being too low.
Funny how Torghast is always fondly remembered but I bet that was after the nerfs.
Being generous, HoF is maybe 40/40/20 EU NA CN for raiding. So 250~ guilds. 100 in EU / NA each.
100 guilds 20 people is 2000 people, but guilds are typically a few more than that so maybe 2300-2500 people.
So ye, 1k per region is pretty damn low. Should be 2000, but honestly I wouldn’t mind seeing it as high as 5000.
Oh i dunno…delve content is some serious stuff…may take awhile to fill out that 1k
Considering most bosses are mechanics checks might get filled within a day or two
Even funnier if there’s some bugged/exploit tier spec that cheeses it and everybody just figures out and plays that
Yeah they need to REALLY be on top of this.
Nice to see people remember how easy tank had it fighting Underpin. 