I hate questing in Bastion with a passion. Threads of fate is worth it for that alone.
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Threads of Fate is objectively faster leveling than the campaign. Side quests give more exp than campaign quests to begin with, doing them with threads of fate also gives you progress towards a big exp chunk for the zone, and because world quests are active you often have one or two in the area you are doing the side quest that you can progress at the same time. There are the threads unique WQs and the normal WQs, they can overlap in the same area.
The people who think it’s slow are the people who are just trying to do the thread unique WQs one at a time while ignoring side quests. The thread WQs are very slow and not worth doing on their own if you are trying to level fast, but they are a decent source of gear if you have a slot falling behind. You can ignore them, just doing the side quests and the normal WQs as they overlap will pretty easily get you to 60 especially if you get a few of the +exp WQs which give tons of exp.
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I am approaching my third level 60 character. I did a druid and now a monk with threads of fate.
Threads of fate for me was just dungeon spam. I sat in Oribos and just spammed dungeons. I mostly did this because I always got the bonus, which is 1k gold +1-3 stones per run.
Right now on my monk I’m at around 25 dungeons and I’m 59.5. I would not suggest this unless you aren’t prone to burnout.
The zone bonus quests I think give me around 18k XP out of 353,000 total needed for 60. Whereas a dungeon gives me dungeon xp + 51k. World quest give me like 8k.
I’m not sure I’d do thread on a DPS class.
The first zone bonus quest gives about 70k exp, not 18k. World quests give about 8k ya but can also be bonus experience WQs which give another 8k, and you can do them at the same time as a side quest or two which give 9-24k. The threads specific WQs give about 16k exp but take significantly longer than other quests, if you are doing stuff in that area anyway it’s sometimes worth finishing them up for another chunk of exp.
If you are doing the campaign you don’t have any of those extra exp layers, you are just doing normal questing in an area for 8-10k exp per quest. You also aren’t earning anima.
so you suggest to people to burnout through the campaign on every single alt? it doesnt work that way for people with 10 let alone 30+ alts and you know it.
it’s pretty terrible (for not saying another word here) that spaming dungeons is considered to get burnout when doing the same quests constantly is usually the factor to burnout quicker… they need to buff the hell out of the % objectives.
so far it’s looking like a poorly designed system at least IE werent like this, sure you would become dead weight at 117-119 cuz the scaling was messed up but you would still notice the leveling there.
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I’m talking about those zone quests with the swords icon. The whole zone quest gives 70k. But those little ones give 18k.
I was talking about the dungeon approach. Not the threads system overall. I just spammed dungeons, took the overall zone bonus quest (which dungeons give about 9% towards). Today I spent 6+ hours running dungeons. I’m fine with it because I like dungeons, I’m just saying others may not like my approach. (Which I copied from a youtube video).
I did a world quest or bonus quest where i was only getting 1% per kill. No, it wasnt a minor mob either… Full hp objective mob.
It took forever to finish and the mobs hit hard af.
Luckily im rolling a priest so weaving lfg in with threads of time feels decent. Not everyone can or will want to do that though
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Ya those cross sword quests probably need some tuning, there’s no reason they should be giving 1% per objective but many of them are. There’s usually an objective in the mix that gives like 5% and you just have to find it and thate makes them tolerable, if they reward a nice piece of gear I will do them, but the ones that are just money I ignore. That’s not threads of fate though, that’s not the whole system, that’s just one minor part of it. The other advantages of the system are quite rewarding, if you want to go fast do the side quests and it’s a breeze, but it’s still viable to level other ways if you want like with dungeons or just doing WQs for anima on multiple alts.
I chose Threads thinking it would allow me the freedom to use my gathering skills to support my main, which it does.
The leveling though is slow. The bonus areas are just plain miserable. 1-2% of a 100% progress bar per kill. The per zone bars you get go sooo slow, I’m unlikely to finish 3 of them, just because I’ve gotten bored with the process and am just spamming dungeons to get it over with.
I would of liked to of seen the zone bars fill faster and be repeatable. The bonus areas be much faster to complete. 5-10% per kill. WQ’s aren’t bad.
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Are you doing all the side quests, or just world quests and bonus objectives?
side quests and world quests/bonus objectives. Its been SO INCREDIBLY SLOW. IM STILL ONLY LEVEL 58 AFTER 5 HOURS OF PLAYING AND STRARTING AT LEVEL 57 TODAY.
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This is so opposite my experience. What zone are you in / what quests are you doing?
World Quests / Bonus Objectives are slow, but the side quests are a ton of experience and pretty fast.
Threads of fate is TERRIBLE. It is probably the worst leveling expansion I’ve ever done. I thought the point was to allow us to get a bit quicker on alts and not be stuck behind a quest wall.
Not only is it WAY WAY SlOWER you are also forced to finish to progression bar in each zone. And doing that doesn’t even get you to Lv 60.
I’ve been through Bastion and Ardenweald… and I am barely Lv 54. I was already 60 halfway through the third zone in the normal leveling way. Not only that, but you are also stuck behind doing each zone instead of what you want.
This is the complete opposite from what we want.
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Does anyone know if you have to actually do all 4 threads of campaign chapters? I’m already 54 and haven’t finished the first one because I’ve been doing dungeons that don’t seem to count towards the progress.
If I get to 60 can I just move on to end-game stuff, or does it make you finish the entire threads of fate campaign regardless, just like you had to finish the story mode at 60 before you could move on?
If we do have to finish all 4, they really need to change that or improve this mode. Random dungeons need to count towards any zones progress.
Dungeon bosses do count, “Defend Ardenweald by completing Side Quests, Bonus Objectives, World Quests, and slaying rare creatures. You may also defeat powerful foes in Ardenweald dungeons.”
100% if you know what you’re doing and just want to skip to max level.
When doing random dungeons I looked at my bar before and after and I got no progress for doing a dungeon.
I may only count dungeons that are related to that faction, but you get any dungeons when doing random. I’m not sure if it counts towards the other campaigns progress when you’re on a different one since you can only see that one.
you can pick up all 4 zones quests at once and just queue for dungeons, so any of the 4 dungeons you get will give you % towards one of the zones.
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Oh, I wish I had realized that 5 levels ago lol. Thanks.
edit: Apparently you have to fly to the zone and then go back to Oribos after each one to get another one (which is dumb), which is why I didn’t realize you could work on all 4 at once.
edit2: now that I’ve finished an alt in it, just wanted to confirm to anyone that sees this later that if you do not finish all 4 campaign quests, it still lets you start the rest of the campaign stuff for your covenant, you don’t have to finish them.
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I picked Threads of Fate to level my second character and I already regret it badly.
The exp they give you for the WQs and Bonus Quests are just not good enough for the time you take to do them.
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