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I think the bigger issue is that it all three mage specs are top tier across raiding and Mythic+.

Absolutely not. That would be a call out. More to the point though, your not the ā€˜judgeā€™ or arbiter of this matter champ. Check yourself. Blizzard has them and they can decide. I donā€™t need to either explain or justify my position to you. But I am going to signal boost this situation because Iā€™m curious if other Mages have dealt with this also.

Again, what are you reporting for?

Because players are allowed to kick for whatever reason or no reason at all.

I could see this being the case for some people in keys but I find it hard to believe there is an epidemic of people booting mages in randoms.

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Youā€™re the one saying you have screenshots to prove it. Why are you telling us this if you then donā€™t want to share them?

PS are we talking about Heroic raidsā€¦ or Dungeons?

It was LFD VTK.

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Iā€™m not saying there is, but if other Mages have had this experience I hope they go to Blizzard. And yes this actually is a Main. Some of us however have jobs and canā€™t no life the first six weeks of launch. Check back in 3-4 weeks now that I have time off to actually play.

But I am tired dreadfully so of the stigma that weā€™re the ā€˜onlyā€™ class that rates to Blizzard. It really does put a crimp in play, especially since I had to concede the last time I debated this with another player. They asked me ā€œWhat other class gets 12 hearthstones (he meant portals), free food, indepth reworks, and always is top tier in PVP and damage?ā€

I had to concede he was right there.

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Itā€™s me, hi. Been a Mage main since Wrath of the Lich King. I do KSH and AoTC every season then stop giving a damn about the season.

The only time Iā€™ve ever been removed from groups is by meta chasers that donā€™t like that Im playing Frost and not Arcane. Itā€™s why I donā€™t pug anymore.

Is this why I see mages all over the place for the full duration of every expansion? A lot of those ā€œfotm rerolling trash cansā€ arenā€™t really rerollers so much as just hilariously bad at the game because of being hard carried through the whole thing just by being a mage.

lie better

For feedback? Sure.

For reporting it? No.

(Sorry, Vrak! I know this pings you.)

Mm. No, I think it was intentional to try and get the thread locked on your part; even though it doesnā€™t violate anything.

Mage has always been the true hero class of this game. Even when 1 spec is dominant, Blizzard will go out of their way to ensure the other 2 are almost as viable.

Everyone has a level 80 mage. Youā€™re not a mage player. Youā€™re just someone who leveled one.

And this is different fromā€¦.what? In the history of WoW, players have always been upset.

ā€¦ what? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Iā€™m linking you factual information to understand Blizzardā€™s views and that itā€™s not reportable.

Where in Godā€™s name did you come up with this tin foil idea that I want the thread shut down?

I need to delegitimize a player, so Iā€™m going to claim I magically know their play habits.

You guys are pathetic. No wonder I donā€™t bother with these forums beyond reading.

Oh, donā€™t be coy Sendryn. Be honest for a change. Even a casual observer or reader of the forums who doesnā€™t comment often KNOWS your posting proclivities. You posted stuff to ping Vrakthris, you have other players flaming, and attacking, and the reason you did so; was because you hope and pray he decides the topic is upset, trolling, or non-productive. Bang. Itā€™s locked.

I mean come on Talonel used to do the exact same crapola. Itā€™s neither original nor new.

Iā€™ll make this easy for you. Bang. Original Thread hidden. Iā€™ll let Blizzard handle my friendā€™s issue. But still sick and tired of this particular assessment by players. Especially when it makes friends feel like crap. There should be parity across all classes and specs. Simple enough.

I find it rrrreaaaaallly hard to believe that people would kick a class out of a dungeon for being tooā€¦good?

Oh nooooooo, weā€™re going to finish this dungeon too fast and too efficiently, oh nooooooooo~

I just donā€™t encounter principle-of-it players like that out in the wild. Everyone just wants to get their stuff done. If someone helps them get that stuff done faster, I donā€™t see anyone objecting.

Overall, Iā€™m just tired of classes getting balanced around the top 1% of performers. My low-geared Arcane/Sunfury 80 mage has a hard time staying alive in solo world quest content, has fairly high downtime and relies entirely on the luck of RNG procs.

OP upset n deleted post cuz no one was agreeing, more at 11.

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Actually I didnā€™t delete it. Itā€™s still there. You just canā€™t see it now. Bracket posts are your friend. :clown_face:

I am too. Iā€™m more tired I think of the fact that people STRESS or even give a rip about a couple of lists. Why the hell Icy Veins and Wowhead post them I donā€™t even know. Starting to think the easiest way to solve this would be if Blizzard did what Final Fantasy does and just hide all damage parsing so such lists canā€™t be compiled.

That has the same result, fren.

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