Those that would like more Challenging Raid Content Phase 2 Please Show Your Support <3 =)

The answer is you technically can if you want to, but technically possible does not equate to practical. I could also tie a hand behind my back, find a way to fake bad internet connection so it feels like it’s 2004 again, not use my razer naga mouse, take off my glasses, etc. Who cares though? Are any of these practical solutions to the problem or just answers you want to brag are technically possible?

At some point you have to ask yourself what do you expect a reasonable average player to do. You can die on the hill of everything you’ve said and what I outlined above is all technically possible to pull off to make it harder so just shut up and do it or don’t, but the actual truth is that anyone who genuinely wanted to (re)experience the content as it originally launched is far more likely to just coast or quit because it isn’t what they wanted. And fine, it is what it is, but you’re ultimately just standing on top of a technically accurate argument that has no basis in reality.

I don’t really disagree with this at all, I’m pretty much over the whole pre-nerf or post-nerf thing. I kind of just hope at some point we will get another round of authentic fresh on a regular schedule, especially if C+ doesn’t tickle my fancy. Anniversary is just what anniversary is.

“I want challenging pre nerf t5 raids.”

“I also refuse to raid with other people that aren’t full BiS, fully enchanted, full consumes, parsing purple, and have played this game for 10 years. And I will only run with a meta comp”

If you want a challenge. Go for parses or speed runs and min max that. There are hundreds of other sweaty guilds competing for those rankings. Beat them. Pre nerf t5 raids in this accelerated timeline don’t fit.

Toggle would be fine if they drop the same amount of loot. Warcraftlogs will use the pre nerf version for parses, all the sweats will raid pre nerf option even if it doesn’t drop more loot.

The nerfed content absolutely does not deserve the same amount of loot. They really should only get badges.

1 Like

I don’t think this is even remotely close to the actual truth and I think post nerf kara is proving it.

It does have a basis in reality because people are literally doing it right now. People are running raids with less raiders to get more gear. People are running parse groups creating their own fun and making challenges for themselves. These things are happening and they do happen.

Distilling what I’m saying down to simple terms is just this:

Post nerf is better for the health of the game. Noobs can do the content. Try hards can create their own challenges.

There are a million examples I could use for the last sentence there, and you can come up with endless excuses to why you can’t. But the reality is try hards DO create their own challenges for content they think is too easy. If you haven’t done them yet then maybe your guild doesn’t want the challenge you think it does.

If you want challenge go retail. Classic is supposed to be snooze fest dad gamer content that you raid log because you only can play 2 nights a week. Go do mythic voidspire rn if you want a challenge. Although this season is kinda a joke. It’s week 2 and my guild that has never been CE only AoTC is already on alleria week 2. So even retail is easier than previous seasons but still the avg normal raid on retail is harder than t4 post nerf XD. Stop asking for challenge in the easy mode version of the game. Go play the version that legit has that option. Why beg for it here XD

let’s take it a step further, don’t play massively multiplayer online RPG’s PERIOD if you truly want a challenge, play a game that is designed to offer a challenge like elden ring or nightreign. I’d wager most wow players have no clue what a challenging gameplay experience even is.

hint: it’s not wiping over and over because some one else that you have no control over is playing incorrectly.

1 Like

Nightreign is terrible and isn’t even hard sekiro and even DS3 are more challenging. I would even argue just hitting like 300lp in league is harder than nightreign and doing that is braid dead. If you want people to experience a challenge. Challenge the average classic player to admit their game is legit designed for people who are unironically 50+ years old and want all post nerf content. That’s the real challenge for these individuals.

tell me you never reached depth 5 or done a no hit/SL level 1 run without telling me. League is a click to move game dude. it has no place in any conversation about skill. Sounds like you’re hardstuck in depth 1

I’m out here hoping it’s post-nerf and this guys trying to make my life harder

3 Likes

These are the same people who sells portals and mage food in town with their enchanting bots, then mass report tanks for tanking.

Bro nightreign is trash. Sekiro is harder. This is a known thing. Nightreign is terribly rated too.

It’s not a known thing it’s a misconception perpetuated by casuals who don’t actually know anything about the game or attempt to learn. What is your highest depth rating? Id wager you can’t even beat everdark libra

Keep crying that ur little half baked thing sucks. This just proves ur bad. You also said reaching high elo in league was easy XD. Go hit challenger clown. Nightreign is stupid easy. It’s easier than cuphead lmao.

No raids are technically that difficult. Theyre just hard for the noob players in your group.

Id rather just smash through easy raids and get a chance at loot rather than wait for idiots to finally avoid the if you get hit raid wipes mechanic.

1 Like

I would prefer all the bosses fell down week one, there’s still mechanics that will wipe the raid if not managed correctly. It’s just AoE pulsing damage on the raid being unmanageable for healers I’m worried about. Apparently one of our Shaman healers is very bad and goes OOM / gets innervate and still only does like 30% of the other Shamans effective healing by the time fight is over.

1 Like

All Fromsoft games are FAR easier than Mythic raiding.

You can complete them by yourself.

That’s not what makes something difficult. Come back when youve completed a no hit run and do not speak again until then on the topic of skill.

I don’t care for the opinions of people who did not and could not complete the hard modes of these games (ng+7 and depth 5)

Are you still crying over nightreign being one of the worst things from soft has dropped and that it’s actually pretty easy lmao. You even claimed it was harder than hitting challenger in league of legends. You’re a clown who has no idea what ur talking about. Sekiro is harder by a lot you just don’t want to admit it. I should expect anything more from a sod ret wheelchair player tho.

You have no idea what you’re talking about as usual. Probably haven’t even played either game. I am right, you are wrong and dumb, and cannot provide any real evidence of your claims.

Is this your way of telling me how bad you are at games in general by showcasing that you are too ignorant to understand even basic concepts? I suppose so.

You should be embarrassed by not only this thread, but the plethora of absolute moronic nonsense you’ve been posting on these forums for years now

Lmao. Just go look at the reviews. Nightreign is terrible and isn’t even hard. You’re just upset that this is true and you seem to worship it. You also get giga butthurt because I called you out for being a sod ret wheelchair main. No one thinks nightreign is hard lmao.