This video about Blizzard manipulating Diablo Immortal Youtube Numbers

11/04/2018 07:47 AMPosted by Metrohaha
Agreed, it isn't right to claim blizzard has some ability to alter vote or view counts when no one else on the website has ever demonstrated the ability to do so, including YouTube itself on their official channels that get filled with hate constantly.

To do so, without any proof whatsoever of such a tall claim, is really unprofessional and borderline clickbait if you ask me.


“MVP” lollll
11/04/2018 01:57 PMPosted by Jamalia
The most probable cause is YT identifying those who'd been hitting the dislike on multiple accounts and removing them. I doubt YT lets anyone modify their vote counts.

The first thought is a conspiracy? Really?

And yes, I did hit dislike on each of the uploads I found.


Eh, even if they keep trimming it, the fact of the matter is the number of dislikes remaining is embarrassing enough.
11/04/2018 07:47 AMPosted by Metrohaha
Agreed, it isn't right to claim blizzard has some ability to alter vote or view counts when no one else on the website has ever demonstrated the ability to do so, including YouTube itself on their official channels that get filled with hate constantly.

To do so, without any proof whatsoever of such a tall claim, is really unprofessional and borderline clickbait if you ask me.


This post does not help.

The core problem with your statement is that there is proof of this, and precedent. They did this during CRZ's roll out also. Ask anyone else who watched it go down.

You'd have CRZ Feedback Threads with nearly 1300+ Up-votes, yet overnight or often in minutes the highly rated posts magically turned into low rated posts, assuming they were not deleted outright. This was happening on these very forums. Anyone intelligent knows the why.

So people really should not act like this is some new low or anything like that, or that there is no proof of it being done. There's plenty of it. It's actually a pretty standard business practice as well, since as some said there is a very real possibility of burner accounts and faked up-votes and down-votes.

11/04/2018 01:52 PMPosted by Alyssera
Give up. Your posts are embarrassing.


You are not helping either.

To be sure, Blizzard engaged in such tactics even back then. But something that isn't as often spoken of, is that so too did it's players and it's corporate rivals. My father had a saying. "There's 3 sides to every story. Your side, their side, and the truth."

If you think that is not the case, you are naive. The meaning behind the saying is this. The 'real' truth when spoken is always inconvenient, and that is because neither side gets to play the morally superior / morally righteous card. Spare me the mock indignation. Both sides are in the wrong and both are in the right. But no one is ever right on every. single. count. That's because we have a little condition called being human.

The true problem is that when people refuse to accept that very fundamental fact, it can become a crushing stigma that can never be fully forgiven or forgotten and before long you have people settling into various camps and refusing to see any view except their own. "You disagree with me! Therefore I will punish you!" It's pathetic, and not unlike the Faction War itself, or politics in this day and age.

Since I hate such extremes, I'll stick to Treebeard's thinking.
"I'm not altogether on anyone's side, because no one is altogether on my side.

If you want to know what the real tragedy in all of this is, it's not the announcement of Diablo Immortal, nor even the decision to make it a mobile game (which I disagree with). Rather there are two real tragedies here.

1.) Customer confidence in this studio is at an all time low.
2.) Studio fatigue with their playerbase is at an all-time high.

Both together form a perfect storm and vicious cycle from which no one wins.

THAT is what breaks my heart.

Unlike everyone else here who's screaming and ranting, I accept it. If I was working with Blizzard and having to deal with the players in the game, I expect I'd be mad as a hatter by now.

I accepted it way back when they pushed CRZ hard, and ignored for years all of the problems it made for the RP Servers. The fact that they later changed things was a good move. But it doesn't erase what I saw play out on the forums.

That was the point that the balance got upset and since then it's been a slow tilt to one extreme or the other, and a polarization of "us vs. them", which frankly speaking is idiotic regardless of what side your on. But can I do a thing to correct the course? Nope. So I stick to my own projects.

The reasons I play these days is for my friends, the things we've achieved, and the role-play I get. On the day the servers close, it will be bittersweet. Sad that it ended, but eager to turn the page.

I remember Eyonix, Tseric, Caydiem, Batta, Drysic, Kalgann, Tigole, and countless others. I remember well all the ups and downs over the past 14 years. Some were fond memories. Others? Well others were less so. But they were memories at the very least, so that has to count for something, right?

Instead the question for me becomes this. "Where do I go from here?" Happily enough, I have my answer already. I'll return to what I was doing before I played WoW. Work on my own stories, and RPG series, which is actually coming along very very nicely.

If anyone wants to do something positive in the face of what is happening, my advice is that you focus on what you can actually control, and that is YOU. Find your own reasons outside of WoW and nurture them. Love the game for what it is, mourn for what it was if you must, but always remember that it is very likely that you will outlive it.

To that end, I will merely recite the toast of the USS Voyager from Star Trek.

"To the journey."
Another video posted about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itBu7xfYekk
Agreed, it isn't right to claim blizzard has some ability to alter vote or view counts when no one else on the website has ever demonstrated the ability to do so, including YouTube itself on their official channels that get filled with hate constantly.

To do so, without any proof whatsoever of such a tall claim, is really unprofessional and borderline clickbait if you ask me.


Do you ever actually read what you write?

Also bolded the section that's irrelevant because nobody would ever ask a shill.
11/04/2018 02:16 PMPosted by Kentaurus
11/04/2018 01:57 PMPosted by Jamalia
The most probable cause is YT identifying those who'd been hitting the dislike on multiple accounts and removing them. I doubt YT lets anyone modify their vote counts.

The first thought is a conspiracy? Really?

And yes, I did hit dislike on each of the uploads I found.


Eh, even if they keep trimming it, the fact of the matter is the number of dislikes remaining is embarrassing enough.


Agreed. I don't, and won't, play games on my phone. Blizz shouldn't be surprised that the people who love their games don't want them on mobile (only!).

They're so deep in their "vision", they don't know who plays their games.
11/04/2018 01:57 PMPosted by Symbioserous
Blizzard : reload video
Disgruntaled Fan: thank gawd I have a mobile phone I can keep renewing dislikes all day.


I must be getting old, because when I read this the Benny Hill Theme started playing in my head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQf2TiwBFHo

Seriously everyone.

Take a deep breath and simmer down. This won't solve a thing.
11/04/2018 07:47 AMPosted by Metrohaha
Agreed, it isn't right to claim blizzard has some ability to alter vote or view counts when no one else on the website has ever demonstrated the ability to do so, including YouTube itself on their official channels that get filled with hate constantly.

To do so, without any proof whatsoever of such a tall claim, is really unprofessional and borderline clickbait if you ask me.


I can do it with the videos I upload to youtube no problem. Why would it suddenly be impossible for a multi Million dollar video game company. Also yeah. Every now and then my dislikes of your Diablo videos vanishes. So forgive me for calling your boss out.
11/04/2018 03:04 PMPosted by Rime
11/04/2018 07:47 AMPosted by Metrohaha
Agreed, it isn't right to claim blizzard has some ability to alter vote or view counts when no one else on the website has ever demonstrated the ability to do so, including YouTube itself on their official channels that get filled with hate constantly.

To do so, without any proof whatsoever of such a tall claim, is really unprofessional and borderline clickbait if you ask me.


No really how much do they pay you shills? You don’t even hide it anymore

https://socialblade.com/youtube/channel/diablo/videos

http://archive.is/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtSmAwpVHsA

https://youtu.be/7l3cw4gswOY


You're out of your league here Metro, should of quit while you were ahead. Proof is right there friendo.
11/04/2018 01:45 PMPosted by Gnop
11/04/2018 01:28 PMPosted by Beerzebabe
They are deleting the video, and reposting it quickly. Deleting it resets the counter. There are screenshots proving this.


Confirmed, there was a mega sale on tinfoil this weekend.

There simpler reasons than coporate sabatoge for dislikes to dissapear including "dislikes disappearing could be due to YouTube removing fake accounts and bot accounts that could have been used to dislike the video".

I highly doubt Blizzard would resort to shenanigans that would be immediately spotted, even if they could, which I doubt.


You doubt that from the Same company to say. "You think you want it, but you don't."

Hey folks, I'm going to go ahead and lock this thread as it has little to do with World of Warcraft. Thanks - Forum Mod