no it didn’t. and WQ giving heroic dungeon level loot didn’t either. or emissaries/warfronts giving heroic raid gear. do you know what ilevel i was when i was progressing normal uldir? heroic raid level. everything i had was from a box. the only upgrade i got from normal at all was an oh. even my weapon i got from a warfront box. so fun, much reward.
No offense but you are a casual player you don’t even have a normal Castle nathria kill.
You don’t understand that loot is very poorly designed in shadowlands, because you don’t play shadowlands.
If you actually did raids and put a few hours in the game every day you would see the current loot is a terrible system.
ur not wrong about loot but no need to be a jerk. chill
i’ve done dungeons and lfr. take your elitist attitude and shove it. i have less chances at raid loot than you do cuz all the bosses aren’t out yet but i’m not crying about low loot drops. i’ve done heroics and mythics and lfr. look at my weapon. nothing from lfr, the chest, or mythics for me yet. even killed the rares that drop stuff for me every single day since my rare rewards went up to 184. you don’t magically get to tell me that i haven’t tried to gear because i don’t do content you deem high enough.
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I like how people are back to talking about titanforging, ignoring the fact they:
Cut down ilvl (+15 instead of +10 first patch) reward + below heroic raid now for even +15
-1 drop
These 2 are the issue, people without a lot of time to play can’t gear fast enough to find m+ rewarding, and people who play a lot don’t wanna gear alts after the grind on mains. This is lose lose for Blizzard.
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Maybe people triggered that it’s no longer worth buying mythic + runs I see
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It’s not elitist it’s true. If you were putting a few hours every day doing Dungeons and raid and getting absolutely nothing for it, like everyone else is, you would understand the problem. But your not so you don’t understand.
you have no idea how many wipes/hours i’ve put in for my stuff. i was at like 8 stacks of determination on council on my monk this week. 8. so much for loot pinata right? you literally are going “you aren’t doing what i’m doing so you’re not putting in the time you nub casual.” i’ve been taken into a heroic raid before by a guild that wanted me for their mythic team and it was infinitely easier than the lfr version. why? skill and discord.
and we are spaming 15s all day clearing heroic every week and not getting the loot for tine we put in.
so u agrree loot as a whole is a problem in shadowlands
i prefer it this way tbh. i actually feel like i’ve earned the pieces i’ve gotten. i don’t have your level of skill, humanity. once i cap out on the stuff i’m able to do it’s off to alts to do the same thing again. i actually like i get to spend most of my time doing stuff on my warlock. but i’m not trying to get 93457934857345 alts into mythic raiding/glad range.
if u prefer that way then they can just fix it for high key levels and heroic raid.
but i doubt all casuals prefer playing the game not getting any loot.
u would still get lower ilvl i dont see the problem
like a fraction of a % do what you do. most peoples idea of “progression” raiding is heroic. aotc is at like 23% which includes carries who buy it for the mount. what you want would literally ruin the game for almost everyone. again.
You do realize you can easily get your I-level by doing Mythic zeros, where by the way you get 3-5 pieces of loot per dungeon.
That averages out to about one piece of Loot an hour.
Once you start getting to high-level mythic + or raids, good luck getting a piece of loot every 15 hours.
The system is broken and it’s not fun, literally everyone says it every other post, you are wrong goodbye.
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3 levels under heroic gear for timing 15s, TEH HORROR!
most of my gear is time gated from my class hall, from my lfr box, or from a tw box. same as everyone else. here’s a weird idea. don’t spend 945739485734 hours a week if you don’t want to. if you want the gear. get it from the vault. bfa stuff isn’t working anymore. don’t play like you did in bfa. wait on your box like everyone else. do enough content to get the amount of choices you want. and no more. it’s insanity to do dungeon after dungeon and upset yourself so much for literally no reason.
yea should be 3 ilvl higher than heroic cuz heroic is easier.
that’s heavily dependent on who you group with. It also unlocks 226 via vault. Don’t see the issue.
I don’t think you know what objectively means.
let them get +3 from the dungeons and make it rain gear again. while also getting rid of the welfare mythic raid gear from the box. because they don’t seem to care about that at all. just getting to spam dungeons to quickly get heroic raid level.
i said it once ill say it again
only people ok with loot design are people who dont play the game
the rest of us who want to progress / push higher keys -higher raid / pvp its dumb
im 15ilvls behind some of my guildies despite us RAIDING THE SAME CONTENT 217 im only 200
ontop of that none of my gear is even optimized its awful im behind and cant push forward at all 3 bad vaults in a row!(i did 10 14’S last week + raid and everything was a downgrade lmao
i did one key this week and been playing an alt because im just over my sub runs out in 10 days
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