This is why

Why do I have to consider this?

I’ll never argue from a flawed premise - it isn’t worth entertaining a faulty thought process just because some people believe it.

What you should actually consider is how much time people actually put in vs what they pay for and the value ratio between enjoyment and money. It’s ever nebulous, exclusively subjective and relative.

If you have to create men out of straw for your stance to make sense, it’s the stance that sucks. Not the other stance or the people taking it.

I mean several people have already said “If it wasn’t for all of this complaining I wouldn’t want to buy the mount!” so it’s literally not a strawman and has numerous posts as evidence to support it.

Maybe we shouldn’t speak before we think it out? (this is for the people who posted such comments btw)

And do you think these people are being honest about that, or do you think they’re trying to bait people into a response?

You’re not stupid, you know this isn’t some widely held belief, and it doesn’t represent any significant whole of people.

Even if someone has said what you’ve created in a strawman, it can in fact be a strawman - what matters is whether or not the stance you’re taking is A.) representative of the point you’re attacking or B.) actually said by the person you’re directing the argument toward.

Is anyone saying that you look like a total rube on your mount being honest or are they trying to bait a response?

As always, the forums are a contest in who can find the lowest hanging fruit.

This is yet another situation of having our forum cake and eating it too.

Eventually the well will dry imo. I think the rate of increased store items is a sign of that. It may drain slow, and there may be a few that keep it afloat, but I don’t think that business model survives this.

I’m not saying WoW is dying, but this expansion in particular is a red flag. QC is declining, content is slowing down even more while they increase the store items quantity. Bugs galore.

Im not so sure this is going to turn around. It probably will get worse.

The latter, obviously.

No WoW player even knows what “rube” actually means.

More seriously, momentary pedantry and derogatory comments can easily be handwaved - it comes from both sides in roughly equal amounts. Or, all sides, it feels wrong to paint this in a left and right manner.

I care more about the substance of what people say, I don’t care about their rude comments, just like I don’t think about it much when I’m rude.

I’ve seen some terrible arguments from all parties, lately. Folks saying “it’s not 90$ since you can use gold” as if that doesn’t apply to literally every digital product Blizzard produces. Thus invalidating any previous or future complaint they themselves may have regarding cost, to extend the logic.

On the other hand, you have people who think paying for this is going to affect the quality of the game remotely. It doesn’t, and it never will, not in any timeframe that makes sense, anyway.

Even if everyone boycotted it, that effect wouldn’t show until after Midnight’s launch. If everyone bought it, same deal.

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Hey as long as we’re handwaving the pedantic and derogatory comments from all sides of the aisle I take no issue with it.

But we aren’t.

Pedantic and derogatory comments are the focus on both sides, as is typical for all divides.

“This is dumb.”

“Why are you judging how I spent my money?!?!?!”

You’re not.

Ignore these. There’s no substance. You could maybe draw something out of the judgment comment, but it’s really not worth the effort. As I said;

You can’t though. We all complain about the price of various things on a daily basis. Most of which are luxuries.

If me complaining about the price of a Brutosaur is a judgement on how you spend money then me complaining about the price of a needless luxury like soda, fruit juice, or steak is also a judgement on how you spend your money.

It’s dumb. End of story.

This is why I said it isn’t worth the effort.

This is why you gotta stop with the strawmanning, even if it’s something people have said sporadically - you’re conflating two things.

People aren’t talking about you complaining when they say not to judge them - they’re cherry picking examples of people going “I’m gonna /spit on all Bruto owners haha!” and complaining about that.

Something you’re lightly responsible for perpetuating, I’d add. You’ve said some asinine garbage in this whole debacle.

I’ll admit to rising to equal my interlocutors as this saga has gone on. :slight_smile:

It’s a lot of people hyperfixating on one thing someone else said and shower-arguing until they have what they feel is the perfect forum post.

Cut through the chaff, hit the substance.

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The substance is that this is a blatant cash-grab and we should all be able to acknowledge it. If it wasn’t for the urge to cut off a nose to spite the face we probably would.

But we’re gamers. Taking from you gives to me in some way.

It is an average salary for anyone who applied themselves in school and has skills. Not a stretch at all.

Breh you’re still committed to being wrong? I love it.

Every time I see this title Paramore starts playing in my head.

No time to worry about zoomer poors. Thanks for asking!

Sure, it’s a cash grab.

Is that inherently bad?

WoW itself was a cash grab, Blizzard got on the MMO cash cow bandwagon.

It’s 120 Australian dollars, I make 120 Australian dollars for an hour’s work.

It’s literally an hour’s work for me.

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Thankfully I’m a millennial that will benefit from inheriting from a boomer.

And yet you are still wrong.

Nope. It’s also not inherently bad to criticize it.