Not my problem. Solution is there. Just go do it.
Then get the gear upgrades from raiding. Simple
Ive never been on one side or another of the argument as far as loot from other pillars.
As i just said, im not getting mythic level gear from m+. You don’t see me complaining about it.
People are gonna get a rude awakening in Season 2 and I can’t wait.
Lot’s of M+ people will flood the forums like a bunch of shrieking alley cats.
Im gonna bet its the opposite of what youre thinking.
Eother delve rewards go down, or delve difficulty per tier goes up with rewards remaining as they are (this is the one id prefer).
They did add higher tiers to Torghast so I imagine they’ll do the same with Delves. It’ll probably even give higher ilevel but it’ll be in the next tier or close enough.
They’ll lose a ton of subs.
People like them far too much.
M+ kids are too addicted to quit.
Blizz is all about money.
Mythic raid loggers would then complain about delves being “forced” content.
But they’ll never quit.
That’s the key here.
I doubt it. If you dont leave delves, lower gear rewards arent going to hurt you. Its the same result as upping the difficulty.
When you’ve got people clearing 8s in 580ilvl gear or even lower…
Thats equivalent to clearing m+ 10 or mythic raid in heroic dungeon gear lol
Doing delves above T8 increases the odds of spawning Zekvir, who’ll drop a map which guarantees a piece of hero gear.
Yeah personally I wouldn’t be surprised if delves were tuned the way that they were to make them more popular. Looks good on paper if the new feature has high engagement, which is easy to do by making it have really strong gear rewards.
I wouldn’t mind delve difficulty going up so that I’m not clearing a recommended 600 ilvl delve at like ilvl 570-580.
Though they should probably also nerf how many keys you can get from Radiant Echoes.
Good for you!
No. For the same reason why Mythic gear cannot drop from Mythic+, but rather only comes from the Mythic track-vault at the end/start of the week.
If you want gear from more difficult content, ya’ gotta participate in said content.
You are asking for mythic quality gear for, effectively, free.
Folks aren’t being obtuse when they are providing you with what’s going to be (most likely) the only form of “Mythic” quality gear that’s available from Delves.
Part of why im guessing they were unlockef a week before m+ and raids too
This. My first T8 i was 583? and a deathless run all at once…i mean come on
Hence higher tier delves.
Comprende?
And when those tiers are actually tuned in accordance with their ilvl, you going to spearhead the “delves are too hard to solo” threads?
They wont have a timer so I’ll be fine.
Thanks for caring!
Which is impossible. Literally.
You cannot make Delves comparable to M+ or Mythic raids. Making it impossible to, again, do anything but effectively give people Mythic gear for free.
Or how are you planning to fit mechanics that require a group into a soloable activity? And that still only gets you Mythic quality gear into the vault, if you want it to drop from Delves you have to figure out how to get mechanics that require a Mythic Raiding team into a soloable delve.
If you can figure out how to make one person do the mechanics of 5 people simultaneously, then you can ask for this. Until then, you are just asking for free gear.
Ditto.
This would effectively kill too many subs. Everyone underestimates the # of people that are unable to get past certain walls without gear progression that is accessible by the majority of playerbase through myth track. Blizzard “probably” wont let this last long enough to lose a ton of subs. Everyone can argue gear should be earned but if that concept pushes people out of the game everyone loses…why not just let gear be easy, bring in more subs, making more money means more money devoted to making game better…theres already endless difficulty in m+ for the people that need higher skill proving content…give those people more achievement/transmog/mounts to show their epeen. Locking gear behind it is just going to bleed subs.
My mage was doing them in the 570s, with the deaths all being because I messed up a 1 shot mechanic.
My third character, my ret paladin, can comfortably do them without worry at 589(which was like 586 before today’s vault).
Well said.
They don’t understand that for some reason.
The subs will do the talking.
No i think weve all got a firm grasp on this. Its those same #s that cant handle the idea that theyre unable to get the best rewards because of a lack of skill, more or less.
Delves can remain in game. Delves can reward the same level of gear. Just increase the difficulty of the tiers to actually match recommended ilvl.
At some point personal accountability needs to take place. “Huh…i just cant get past Tier 7, even with the gear…guess this is my ceiling”. Why is this such a bad thing?
Feral and Guardian have been a breeze to me. My Dev Evoker struggles a little just because im not 100% comfortable woth their kit/talent selections as ive only really played him a couple months. But even so, he finished a 7 at 570 with only 2 deaths.