Deliberately unfair loot councils from what i can gleen of forum complaints are widely subjective and generally a person not understanding how to progress as a whole.
Constant stories of favoritism is thrown around, with not much substance.
Ninja looting in pugs was much more common.
and most were fair. But most people dont actually want fair, they want a system that rewards them. Loot councils reward a group, but petty people don’t think as a group, they think of them.
Its the greed of the general players that was the issue, not the fictional greed of every GM. there were some GMs that were greedy, but if they survived long, it was only due to people being unable to just make a change and leave.
More sweep under the rug just incase you needed more examples. “No no, you just dont understand”. Again, exactly the issue, refusal to acknowledge.
Interesting. Seems like grounds for removal to me. most having different views on how the system can work but only one party in the group has control over it causing pain points.
Weird, again, if the general playerbase conflicts with the ideal but only a few have the power over the ideal, again seems like grounds for removal to me. Something something seize the means of production for the populace.
You literally just defined 1900’s factory conditions and even used the same exact defense they used and are now surprised when they rioted and rebelled. History really do be repeating itself.
You did the parallels are uncanny. These workers dont understand, it’s for the betterment of the business. They dont understand how to make the whole machine work. Theyre so greedy.
Workers: rebels and reforms the system
Factory CEO: surpised pikachu face
Turns out handwaving actual problems with greed and ignorance is infact not a viable solution and gets reworked.
It is what it is.As the ML crowd refuses to acknowledge and handwaves it as ignorance and greed they are just gonna have to keep QQing about it not being in the game. If they could wake up and come together define the ideal system for both sides that addresses both sides declared pain points and used something like the community council for it, there would be hope, but as is, there is none because of really just arrogance. The self inflicted wound is sometimes the deepest.
It’s literally just two people in that thread who want it. The other posters are completely against it and everyone is in an agreement that upgrades to gear ie warforging is okay if the player has complete control over it instead of rolling a slot machine.
Warforging/Titanforging in their previous RNG heavy forms should NEVER be added back to the game.
If they could come together and become a louder voice than anti ML people, blizz would likely implement it. they tend to lean into decisions of the most vocal.
Unlikely, blizzard is literally known for not reverting changes in the face of loud opposition. “You think you do but you dont” wasn’t a meme for no reason.
So when given choices almost everyone chose to use it? And you think that’s a reason to get rid of it?
Sorry you’ll have to walk me through that leap a bit slower.
It clearly does.
Loot is in your bag and no one can take it from you. “trials not getting loot for months” solved
ez gg next
O ly people that are seriously effected by this are the very top of the top wou would do full splits for each character to trade them everything in 1 run in heroic but that’s probably like 1-200 people total so who cares about that.
It clearly doesn’t as your bounced from guild to guild for not trading it to who the loot council decided and therefore lose progression and same end result. Its literally just what happened to ninja looters. Youd be deemed ninja looter by the GM.
Perfect. It’s not a reason to do away with it. So they should bring loot options back. Or just PL with the ability to trade loot would solve the issue too and give people the protection they seem to think they need.