There is just too much going on

2 weekly missions: 5 Souls from the maw and 1000 Anima added to covenant reserves. Then the weekly covenant campaign missions to stay renown capped.

Anything else is up to you to decide what is worth doing.

I don’t understand how people can be so confused about what to do. This game is dead simple, and no, it’s not an age related thing. Wowhead exists if you really are that clueless on what to do.

Don’t you deal with more complicated issues at your place of work?

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This is the exact problem. I feel like we got a year’s worth of patches all on day one. If they could have released things slowly, people would have a chance to learn about each one. I can’t imagine what it’s going to be like when they release even more new systems in future patches. Or worse, what if there is no more because they gave it to us all at once?

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I feel very similar. I was a pretty high-information player while they were developing SL, but I took a break about two weeks before launch and am just now coming back and I just feel… very overwhelmed.

While I have no clue if they will add more, they did say that the intent was to launch with all of the systems in place, rather than adding a bunch of tertiary systems in X.2, X.3, etc. So this is as if BfA launched with Corruption, the cloak, azerite, etc etc

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Lol, normally I hate negative posts but you had me at ā€œlittle fairy areaā€ LOL.

Being an older gamer myself (not quiet 45 but catching up!) I can say that time and patience are the limiting factors the older we get which does impact our enjoyability of things like video games.

But I do agree with what others have commented. This is an MMO and it needs to have a wide variety of things to do so that everyone along the gaming spectrum has the ability to enjoy the game in their own way. Having said that, maybe what you need is a different genre altogether?

Again, ask 10 people, get 10 different lists of what’s important.

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I think the problem is you don’t understand a feature and then you go read guides on wowhead. Now the initiative you took is not the problem. The problem is how wowhead-type guides are written. They give you 3 paragraphs of exposition/intro that’s absolutely a complete waste of time. Even their full description of explaining why a Covenant ability is best for your class or bad is way too long.

And when you look at guides for end-game raid mechanics, you’re going to feel the same way. Even ā€œshort videosā€ do a bad job because they’re basically reading the abilities tooltips. Casual/beginner players don’t need to read the full tooltip. They need an explanation like ā€œIF light blue circle on you, form a venn diagram, if dark blue circle on you make sure your teammates aren’t inside your circle.ā€ And if you want to learn more about the encounter, you’re free to do so.

There’s a saying ā€œKeep it simpleā€ or ā€œSometimes simple is more.ā€ Artificer in Nathria is an extremely easy fight; perhaps one of the easiest fights in Nathria. It is also one of the most fun encounters in Nathria. Beginners/casual players dont want to sit there for 30 minutes to an hour reading some dude’s guides on wowhead for several different systems.

Here’s what you prioritize. Renown > Rep/Stygia > Anima for world tasks and events. There’s not a hard cap on how much anima you earn weekly but there is for renown/rep/stygia. The currency that matters most is Soul Ash > Anima/Stygia. If you’re more gear oriented, then Honor/Conquest clearly is more important.

It should be noted anima can help you upgrade gear you can earn from renown vendors but the amount you can upgrade is hard capped based on your renown. And renown has a hard cap for everyone. Meaning the upgrades you get from renown vendor is not even decent yet unless you are a player who started a bit late.

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Is a 2nd job really what you are looking for in a game?

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10 things that are important:

  • Strong lore
  • Engaging open world quests
  • Engaging zone content
  • Nice looking armor that scales in appearance the harder the content
  • Measurable Progression (need to feel like I am getting stronger)
  • PvP that I can toggle in and out of without being forced into it
  • Endgame dailies (additional things to do though optional)
  • Deep crafting system (WoW is lacking this)
  • Player housing (WoW is lacking this)
  • Collectibles & achievements

It’s the only system directly tied to player power and I think you’d have to do all the quests at once if you waited. I’d sure prefer to do that now. Especially since theres literally nothing to do besides Torghast (which is also coming to an end as people will only use 1-2 leggos and those are getting capped).

I’m just the messenger. Your fight is with Rattled.

Welcome to a game trying to appeal to a wide audience.

Its kinda the point, you’re not supposed to do everything at once (or at all).

Just pick one thig during your play session and focus on that.

Well if the car is really dirty, I have to spray it a bit more than usual.

So yeah, Shadowlands is more complicated than my job.

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No it’s not. You’re the one whining (trolling) that you literally have to complete all forms of content every day. This is by far not the case and too many people think that way. You don’t need to be out there doing world quests for no reason if you hate it.

It’s like at work when you have multiple tasks to do.
Pick one to start with.
Once you get a feel for it, then pick another.

The greatest journeys happen one step at a time.

Wow you summarized this perfectly. I just ran into this issue with Wowhead last night. I was looking to see what mount I wanted to earn next to set a goal post and I came across the bumble bee.

I said I need this.

Around 5 different wowhead pages/guides later I finally have 3 different pages that summarize the path I need to follow just to get this bee mount. If I didn’t minimize my game to research it, I would never ever have known how to get it.

WoW is in desperate need of a concise built-in wiki or some other tool to understand how to obtain things or how things interact with each other. It shouldn’t be left to convoluted third party sites.

Edit: to better visualize the mess you have to navigate just to find something out as simple as how to earn this bumble bee mount:

  1. started here to figure out what quest yields the mount as a reward:
    https:[URL]//www.wowhead.com/quest=56108/leaving-the-hive

  2. this led me here to figure out who’s Barry because after traveling to that location on the map, there were no quests to obtain
    https:[URL]//www.wowhead.com/npc=153393/barry#sells

  3. this led me to finding Barry on the south area but he had no quest to give me, further research yielded this
    https:[URL]//www.wowhead.com/guides/honeyback-hive-reputation-bee-mount-rewards

  4. that further research and guide to honeyback hive reputation finally led me to this, my starting point to being able to farm the mount
    https:[URL]//www.wowhead.com/guides/honeyback-hive-reputation-bee-mount-rewards#unlocking-the-honeyback-hive

This is INSANE amount of external research needed just for 1 mount. Nowhere in the game world or UI does it tell you how to obtain this mount.

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I posted where you said the one thing you must do. I also posted another person saying that is something you definitely don’t need to do. So I’m trolling when I say that I have to do everything or else risk falling behind? Get a clue.

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This is a stupid comment. There’s a difference in being able to figure something out and going into something completely blind. There are quest markers everywhere at 60 due to the campaign and all of the quests left behind. Some matter, some don’t. Now one could spend hours doing every single one and clicking every single npc but personally, I wanted the important stuff first, random flavor quests can wait. With out searching 3rd party there is no way to know the change to the honor system, what the maw is even for, what to upgrade in your covenant or if it even matters, how to craft your legendary etc…

It is not an issue of critical thinking, You are put on a rollercoaster then immediately dropped into sand at 60. Once you get going things are fine but the initial question of wtf do I do at 60 is definitely very real. Not everybody farmed beta or watches youtube guides daily.

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100% you gotta be trolling saying that. If you can’t think of how a system increases your player power you probably don’t need to do it.

If a system takes months of grinding for an extremely slight upgrade (a couple sockets? hello maw?) it probably isn’t worth slogging through it every single day if you feel forced.

I’ve already cleared heroic and am wiping in mythic raid now and I only occasionally do the maw, rarely do wqs/callings, will probably stop doing torghast soon when my 2nd legendary is maxed. I really only do what I feel like doing.

So there seems to be quite a bit of confusion in this thread as to what should be and what doesn’t need to be done.

One thing I did hear alot, is do what you want to do and focus on that.

Just enjoy.

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