There is just too many dps

least healing really isn’t healing in ff14, it’s a glorified 2 button dps with OCD healing. well for where it applies. Lower level stuff isn’t too bad either.

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One solution is to make dungeons like Torghast/MoP Scenarios and make them role agnostic, and have the dungeon adapt based on what your group composition is. Problem is that would require too much effort from this current Dev team.

The shortage of tanks and healers have been prevalent in every single MMO that I have played. People don’t want the responsibility or they are just tired of other people’s crap behavior. There is nothing you can do to change the problem. The sun will continue to rise in the east and people will continue to not play tanks in pug content. Things will never change.

It’s the one reason why I won’t play a tank or healer anymore. I’m tired of people’s bs.

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Hey i’m a tnak and i get declined all teh time too so dnt feel too bad.

you don’t really want it. Guild wars 2 tried to get rid of holy trinity, but at the end you still have the tankiest and the healiest builds

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For healing in most content it’s easy as cake.

For savage and ultimate usually still a bit of pressure on the barrier healers for perfect timing compared to the DPS because mechanics will deal 105% of all health. WHM/ASTRO generally still have it easy even in hard content and will be only important for recovery after.

I don’t play sage or scholar much, I prefer WHM and Astro if i feel like healing

Nah i played GW2 i know that’s a dead end.

But you could learn an off-roll to at least get your io up.

How is what he said “whataboutism”? We just using words now?

Tanks are still learning new routes and new M+ dungeon mechanics and getting treated like crap for it. Don’t be surprised when very few want to pug that experience.

Dps has responsibility just in a different way. Any recently high key can be ruined by dps dying on boss fights I’m a tyrannical key. At the end of the day you need to be alive to deal damage. I play dps not because I don’t want to take initiative but because dps in general are awful so I feel I need to play one.

Played tank plenty of times through the years and it’s beyond frustrating when dps dies and that’s the reason the content you’re trying to do fails. Never again.

And yet ironically, this expansion I have quicker ques in LFR and often ‘Raid Finder’ as a dps than I do as heals. :person_shrugging:

More tanks however, would be nice.

I dont know i listed an 8 key not even dps was applying

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I haven’t seen 50 dps apply in a long time. It’s usually in the 5-10 range.

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The actual problem is that the PvE content in this game that doesn’t require tanks or healers is usually trash; the game doesn’t need group content to be more like Torghast

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Reading these threads about tanking is why I havent tried in DF. Haven’t tanked since Wrath, but thought it was pretty fun. Felt paladins were OP for that xpac so found it fairly easy. One day I suppose I will put on the big boy pants and try again since hpal feels fairly miserable right now.

We can make Warlock’s tanks. They seem to be pretty popular now. :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

That makes sense, they comprise the majority of a group.

They need to make tanking stupid simple. Linear dungeons, passive mitigation.