The idea here is the self-same argument that’s been made in this game since it first came out. The reality is, we both pay the same amount for this game (initial cost plus sub). If you play the game a total of 20 hours a week, and are able to get the same gear/progression out of it as I do playing it 40 hours a week, each one of your hours played is DOUBLE in value.
It’s really easy to solve a problem like this without creating what most casual players refer to as the 1% grind. There’s a bell curve in gearing, where a catch-up mechanic gets you up to whatever current progression is, quickly. Then, gearing slows down as you get closer to current content, and then moves towards infinity on the other end. But, if you notice, that’s the whole idea. It doesn’t just STOP because “most people are in blues still”. I get that my having to grind 35 mythic plus is part of the penance I pay for playing more than the average person.
Playing that long with NOTHING to show for it though, only to have you log in 5 minutes later and get an upgrade…is insulting.
The game has become entirely about time-gating now, including gearing up.
You will get your weekly chest, and eventually be geared up from that. That’s the game now.
So by that logic the original vanilla launch was king of time played metrics?
It did make people play for an insane amount of time to get anything done.
It’s RNG man idk what to tell you. you are complaining about a drought of drops or that people playing less get the same gear etc. its RNG its completely random and out of our hands. Only thing blizz can do is buff drops which imo they hand out gear enough as is because people assume more loot equals more fun now days instead of just playing and enjoying the game. not everything needs a reward and at the end of the day gearing is just a time sink and will be replaced every major patch.
It did take a while to do a lot in vanilla… but the difference is that this is now a measurable metric that Blizzard is using to track the ‘success’ of the content and the game. It no longer matters if people are enjoying themselves… just that people are doing it for it to be considered a success.
This is what has led to so many of the more… open ended systems we’ve had over the last couple of expansions, that didn’t really have an ‘end state’ until the players complained bout it enough (e.g. OG artifact weapon system in Legion)
At the same time, three days ago the max ilvl possible was like 185. You are beyond that already while still complaining that you are getting no gear.
If you view someone 20 ilvls lower than you getting a single upgrade when you are unhappy with the much-better epic piece you have in every slot as “an insult”…that’s a you issue. You clearly have something to show for it because you are in full epics with a legendary. Sounds like ego is tied a little too close to ilvl here.
It’s pretty much this, I don’t know what to tell you. MMOs are made to last longer than a week. The Great Vault isn’t even open yet.
Your gear is just one step below normal CN. If you still can’t do the raid the problem isn’t your gear. It’s you.
It’s not ego at all. It’s ability to enjoy the game. I worry about getting gear because there’s an endless procession/expectation towards higher and higher ilvl or IO. If you aren’t a tank or a healer, you better damn well have a REALLY high item level, or be a highly desired class/spec. If not, sucks to be you. Guess you’re gonna spend 15-20 spamming requests for invites to M+ dungeon groups that want a 190+ for a Mythic+2.
It never ceases to amaze how EVERY WoW player will cherry pick whatever part of a persons comment to fit their witty quip, as if taking one sentence…or a fragment of one somehow makes your entire point valid. It’s the equivalent of graduate theses that literally use one or two sentences as a quote from a 400-page book to summarize the exact opposite point the author was making. At least three people did it here, only for me to clarify my position by referring them back to what I already said.
If my enjoyment is in progression of character power, why is that an unacceptable means of seeking enjoyment? Why do I have to ascribe to your way/method?
This is a straw man argument. Gearing is not hard. There are lots of players at 200+ ilvl. I’m getting pretty close myself
Run more dungeons
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I timed I think 600 keys in 8.3.
You have to go hard if you want drops.
Why in gods name would you be running +2s. Don’t run ANYTHING that can’t potentially result in an upgrade.
Target the dungeons with the most potential upgrades for you
Push your own key
Stop being Whiny brats guys you are going this great thing we have going ruined.
Play the dang game!
At literally no point in this entire post was any mention made of being unable to do content because of gear. As a long-time player, I’m well aware that ability to do mechanics has absolutely ZERO to do with gear. It’s why there are groups already hitting M+15. It’s why I’m able to walk into a group doing a +8 with a 184 ilvl and not only do top dps, but also manage stun cd’s, interrupts, and lead players with covenant abilities they don’t even know how to use.
Coming into a conversation almost 70 comments later and dropping a one-liner with little-to-no actual critical thought because you think you’ll sound smart is ignorant, and lazy. Try again.
Loot from ANY +4 key would be a 10ilvl upgrade for you. Progress your way up like the rest of us. Type +4 in group finder and join any that will take you. After you have close to 3/4 or full 194 from +4s, start pushing to +6s. This is how it works
I was doing the +2s for items I still had blues in. I’ve done an equal amount of 5-7’s. Yesterday, I plowed through ~15 more dungeons. I’m no stranger to the grind. And I definitely don’t mind putting in the work.
I’m trying Crimescene. I really am! 
You actually did say “barely able to walk into raid” that can mean you are having trouble doing the content. If you aren’t having trouble doing the content then the game is working as intended.
No buddy, barely able to walk into raid as in my item level is barely high enough to qualify as a useful candidate, and not just a warm body soaking up purples. You can be the most competent player in the world; most boss mechanics have enrage walls that you’ll quickly run into if you don’t have the minimum requisite gear.
In fact, here’s some more anecdotal evidence to support my complaint that the loot system is broken and I don’t want more gear dropping, just gear dropping more consistently.
I ran FIFTEEN dungeons yesterday on this shaman and got ZERO drops.
I just finished a Mythic 0 Sanguin Depths on my Blood DK and got TWO drops, both of which were “upgrades”, so even if I wanted to be generous to the warrior in the group, I couldn’t.