How many seasons are going to go by where dps DK is simply at the mercy of tuning instead of finally being given something to contribute to a raid that can’t be done better by Blood?
Every other class is represented in almost every fight, with us fighting with Rogue for fill slots when mages and even fury warriors are getting multiple.
We’re delegated to being fills in heroic splits so other classes can get more loot.
This is on top of the one thing we have going for us - - our durability, getting completely crapped on in one of the most melee-hostile raids in several expansions. Farewell to Death Knights getting to cheat mechanics! I enjoyed that part of our identity.
When will Blizzard let up on this class and let us actually be useful outside of being overtuned? Grip, time and time again, is proven that it is not good enough and is a convenience more than anything for fights where it matters.
No raid buff, replaceable raid wide DR with other specs, grip/abom isn’t especially useful and can troll some mechanics, mid to subpar damage, lots of target swapping, all factor in to it being better to bring other specs if played at the same level. Without providing better throughput there’s no reason to bring a DK atm.
this is not the first time too. Dks has had this issue in keys since keys came out. Grips are kind of useless, unless bliz invents a bunch of adds that NEED to be gripped. If they dont, and dk dps isnt amazing, dks get sat. We are going to see it this season forsure, only real grip fight is Gally and it has to be Mass grip or chain sigil, if even that. They need to bite the bullet and give up on this “utility is a group buff” BS they keep trying to sell. Good players know better than this, and bliz devs should too. Whole system of trying to keep dks “relavent” is frustrating to players, and oppersive to the game design. If bliz doesnt create situations for grip to be useful than dks dont get to be relavent. That is so backwards its insane. The obvious answer is to just give us a damn raid buff already, and move mass grip into gen tree so dps dk can grip just as well as tank dk can. Mayb delete abombs if you hav too. The longer devs dig their heels in on the whole raid buff question then more tiers we will hav like this, at the mercy of the tuning and fight design.
It frustrates me how intelligent, creative, and clever game designers like the ones who made this season could be so wholey ignorant to this issue. Really bothers me, esp since i love dk so very much all three specs. I just want to get brought to content and not feel like i trolled my friends by playing this stupid class in the first place.
Is balance really missing the mark if we deal damage and don’t bring ANYTHING ELSE? Like why can a Paladin compete with my dps while having two immunities, freedom, offhealing, more range, and devotion aura?
If utility doesn’t have a damage tax, THAT is unbalanced. This is something I think the current team doesn’t get.
People don’t care about what they already have. They only see what they don’t have. Therefore, when a dps dk is on top, ppl can only have one reaction toward it. OMG ITS OP PLZ NERF WAHHHHHHHHHHHH.
At a certain point, Blizz has to listen to the overwhelming feedback from the crowd. The community and blizzard fail to realize that if dk isn’t the best melee, it will never be used in rwf. This is such a precarious position to be in. I would rather us receive a strong raid buff as a class and, be in the mercy of regular balance roulette just like everyone else does. Not hoping for exactly 1 outcome (DK to be the best melee) in order to see some representation
The best thing they could do for dk would be to put mass grip into gen tree and give us some kind of raid buff, outside of that the class is doomed to languish in obscurity for another expac, floating on the whims of class balance and cope.
whats truely upsetting is Dk is not tuned poorly, Bdk is strong in raid with good ST, UH sanlayn has decent ST and is tanky still. We r not mobile enough, nothing needs gripped, and other melee/tanks just do it better than we do, and so no Dks aloud in RWF. There is only one solution and the sooner bliz realizes that we need a raid buff and stops dragging their heels the better.
Death’s Advance and Wraith Walk dont make you mobile enough? Even with the accompanying talents? Or do DK’s not take these and then complain about being slow?
