If I could pick the lock to your house, sneak in and steal your stuff or assassinate you for a bounty or something fun like that. Sure, bring on player housing.
But if its some kind of weird neighborhood you instance into so you can play world of housecraft with with all the other sims, hell no. All that time and money to pay devs would bemuch better spent on end game content and making way more fun pvp bgs.
plenty of players did but wow is an old game and I canât see how they could make housing that people would be happy with. Plus housing would cause lots of unhappiness if people invested in one and then took 6 months off and lost it.
Yes, they were an attempt, nobody is saying anything different. Itâs not like having a bed to sleep in is engaging content, or in demand. If I remember correctly there was a form of trophy showcasing. What else do people want in player housing? A bed? Thatâs it? Like animal crossing style home decor? I doubt most warcraft players care for that. Theyâd more likely gravitate to armor cosmetics, mounts, and the character screen options.
I was gonna say âtoo many vine pulling questsâ
The failure was in that it wasnât very good. Not that it wasnât a type of player housing. But considering you canât even acknowledge that ⊠no point in going further with this.
Essentially yeah⊠thatâs what most folks who talk about player housing boil it down to. Stuff you genuinely hear when you engage with folks who advocate for player housing whilst saying garrisons werenât, is that folks say things like âI couldnât even change out the curtainsâ ⊠of course thatâs most likely folks being a bit facetious but⊠yes.
That is essentially what folks who keep harping on about how âgarrisons werenât real player housingâ say and mean. Ignoring that WoW ainât a MMO like other modern mmos.
Idk, aside from how garrisons went, which was a proto-housing attempt. They probably just donât think most players care for it.
On the flip side, if they for example make a tree full of pods for NEâs, and make it creative like that, with slight buffs of sorts so you want to go back there at âbedtimeâ, but not stay at all during playtime, I can see that being fine.
no thx, they tried that with garrisons.
Itâs a custom engine, it can handle whatever they want it to handle. This isnât some tiny indie company trying to make a game on RPGMaker and being tied down by âengine limitations.â Itâs their engine and they can modify it and add onto it whenever they want for whatever purposes they want. They could make this game entirely voxel based with deformable terrain, and thatâs not even that unrealistic a process.
Also free-form object placement is already thing, there are multiple toys that allow you to plop stuff down wherever you want, including functional furniture. Itâs just a matter of adding a placement UI and setting up persistence. Most MMOs have static buildings that you just furnish. People asking for housing are generally not literally asking to build their houses brick by brick. People would be happy ârentingâ a building in a city and just having options to furnish/customize it and maybe have a few NPCs move in.
And ya, over the past 20 years this has probably been the most requested feature, by quite a bit. Especially since high elves were added in the first expansion.
So Garrison 2.0? they killed the game entirely. they learned their mistake they donât want you to Afk at your home in game. they want you to Afk in Dalaran so you can see more people and people inspect you etc. That is what makes the game more live.
Garrisons were implemented poorly. Itâs not the playerâs fault that that was the case. Itâs blizzardâs responsibility to deliver functional features.
Ah still beating this old drum arenât you?
Again, go play SWTOR if you think Garrisons are anything like housing. The housing system is SWTOR is akin to what most of us want.
GARRISONS WERE NOT IT.
But I donât know why I bother with you since apparently this goes in one ear and out the other every time PH is mentioned.
Players: âWe want a house that we can decorate and customize and put up trophiesâ
Brewa: âGarrisons which have none of that is housing!â
Players: ââŠâ
Like asking for a sandwich and getting cereal and being told âitâs a sandwich because itâs foodâ
Swear to god âdwarf racialsâ and âplayer housingâ are a âsummon Brewaâ spell in disguise.
Mr. Dev here knows the game engine because heâs worked on it 
How do you know the devs canât implement any of that? Itâs THEIR engine.
if you want player housing then go play one of the other mmoâs that has that functionality? what would be the big grandiose reason / feature for blizzard to spend alot of their already sub par coding time to make houses a thing other than cos we can decorate it. blizz struggles to push decent content as it is and already rush xpacs
Heres an idea, apply for a Fannie Mae or Freddy Mac loan, buy a house, and have player housing.
Why does the game have to be a second life?
âŠit wasnât. It was a quest hub.
I acknowledge that my opinion differs from yours.
âŠas you say.
Raiding amd M+ is a second life for some folks. Some others just want a different kind.
An opinion is different from a rejection of objective reality. Thereâs no âopinionâ to be mentioned in any of this. The attitude of yours is the same that multitudes of others share but it makes it impossible to talk about anything.
Because you are engaging in a âNo true scotsmanâ-fallacy. So until at least enough of yaâ drop it or we have other sensible data points, it becomes impossible to determine what kind of player housing would work in WoW. Since the thing you are saying is essentially âyeah that thing doesnât count because it isnât what I wanted.â
This is why it is pointless to talk with anyone engaging in fallacious reasoning. Because⊠why make a point, have a conversation, or even provide feedback of any kind when it can just be dismissed as âit doesnât count because I donât feel like it.â
Yes there is⊠mine, and yours, which obviously differ.
Your opinion ABOUT your opinion being âobjective realityâ is where the fallacy lies.
kthxbye.
Yeah youd think they would want to profit off something like that knowing how in demand its been since day 1⊠They could even do something like the Neighborhood system LOTRO has.
I LOVE housing in that game, you go to a âneighborhoodâ area portal and when you walk in it shows a list of named âneighborhoodsâ You can select from just a large area of a ton of different houses, some big some small that you can purchase with gold and decorate inside and out.
Each housing area is a different mini instance of the same layout of houses for players to use. The game also has visually different neighborhoods depending on the racial zone you go to to live in!
Garrisons are not even remotely close to actual player housing and you know it.
You can do that in WoD⊠What canât you do out there that you can do in âPlayer housingâ?