The War Within Hotfixes - October 7

[Turalyonn-dalaran]

@Skulbasher-alleria

Pally is great at pvp. If you are not thats a different story, but theres that regardless. Paladin has been good at pvp for a long time now with its CC and shields. And pally has not ever dropped being at a minimum a mid tier class. Its either been mid or top when considering its utility and damage.

Okay. No one is arguing this (MAYBE A/A+ Tier, but NOT S). Go on…

@Skulbasher-alleria

DK on the other hand has basically no utility, other than AMZ and grip if it works. What gets dk into raids and m+ is either lots of aoe required (then unholy gets in) or pure damage output, nothing else. People will bring a pally in any of its 3 specs, so this is not even close to an argument of saying DK is better than pally. Yeah, we might have a LITTLE more damage, but our utilization sucks, and its hard for us to be accepted.

How are you saying these things with a straight face? You’re honestly trolling me, right? That must be it.

Frost DK is the number one spec being invited in keys because your dps is outstanding. And I’m gonna keep bringing this up: There’s NO paladin player that says they don’t want Frost DK anywhere near them. We have NO problem with you guys in the slightest. Either give me a quote from someone or stop the noise.

[Brewscifer-area-52]

@Linxy

Fixed an issue where mages could consume each other’s Magi’s Spark effects.

Frost DK cant bubble others, cant heal others, cant dispell others, and cant external others. I guess that means all the utility of pallies should be given to all classes, if the pallies get to do more dmg than pure dps classes.

Utility DOES matter, go ask the warriors from DF how much they loved not getting accepted due to lack of utility for affixes

[Turalyonn-dalaran]

@Brewscifer-area-52

I guess that means all the utility of pallies should be given to all classes, if the pallies get to do more dmg than pure dps classes.

Hybrid tax doesn’t exist. Blizzard got rid of that years ago. Sorry.

@Brewscifer-area-52

Utility DOES matter

Then play pally. problem solved.

[Skulbasher-alleria]

I tried playing a paladin but he just got raised by arthas in like 2009

[Skulbasher-alleria]

@Brewscifer-area-52

Frost DK cant bubble others

Btw, i think its the very bottom left of the class talent tree, but selecting that talent lets your AMS also go to other party members. I believe there is also a pvp talent letting you directly cast AMS on someone else.

[Brewscifer-area-52]

Imagine if every class was that petty XD

[Brewscifer-area-52]

I do play pally.

Care to explain why warriors were neglected in M+ last xpac?

Oh wait, its because utility does yet again matter.

Let’s give warriors cleanse, an external, off healing and immunities since utility doesn’t matter to you

[Turalyonn-dalaran]

@Brewscifer-area-52

I do play pally.

Good. Problem solved.

@Brewscifer-area-52

Care to explain why warriors were neglected in M+ last xpac?

Dude, I don’t run Blizzard. That’s not on me.

@Brewscifer-area-52

Oh wait, its because utility does yet again matter.

Again, hybrid tax doesn’t exist.

@Brewscifer-area-52

Let’s give warriors cleanse, an external, off healing and immunities since utility doesn’t matter to you

They did. They’re called Paladins. Problem solved.

[Kaivax]

September 2, 2025

Classes

• Druid
  • Elune’s Chosen: Fixed an issue with the Ornaments of the Mother Eagle (4) Set Bonus that frequently prevented the set’s Starsurges from splitting to nearby targets.

Creatures and NPCs

• Fixed an issue that could diminish client performance while engaging Reshanor, the Untethered.
• Fixed an issue causing Kelp from Kelpmire to persist if the player was immune to roots when hit with Kelpsplosion!

Dungeons and Raids

• Player deaths in Mythic+2 and +3 keystones no longer reduces the timer or displays a death count in the objective window.
• Manaforge Omega
  • Loom’ithar
    • Resolved an issue that caused Loom’ithar to stop tracking the player during the cast of Piercing Strand if they transformed.
    • Resolved an issue that caused Loom’ithar to face the wrong player or direction when Piercing Strand was cast.
    • Resolved an issue preventing damage reduction effects applied to Loom’ithar to modify the damage of Piercing Strand.

Items

• Araz’s Ritual Forge self-damage on use can no longer critically strike, and is no longer affected by damage done or damage taken modifiers.
• The War Within Season 2 banner toys now use the correct appearance.
• Nexus-King’s Command’s Oath-Bound effect on marked allies is now consumed by Word of Glory, Eternal Flame, and Lay on Hands.
• Unyielding Netherprism no longer fails to split damage and scale as intended.

Quests

• More Flawed Rancors are now present in Maldraxxus for “I Don’t Even Work Here”.
• More Necrorays are now present in The Oasis for “Dubious Intent”.

[Bargis-mankrik]

wheres the class tuning? Pwarr and brew are so far ahead of other tanks its not even funny… theyre both basically a 4th dps…

[Penderghast-stormrage]

@Kaivax

Player deaths in Mythic+2 and +3 keystones no longer reduces the timer or displays a death count in the objective window.

I thought the death timer penalty only affected keys 12 and up? Or am I crazy.

[Kiyoko-ravenholdt]

At higher key levels, Xal’atath’s guile increases the penalty from 5 to 15 seconds and removes the buffs provided by the first affix at level 4.

[Doußlebrutal-frostmourne]

Please tell the dev team to look at the DX12 transmog crash Kaivax. Been top of bug report forums for MONTHS now and is game breaking. No point playing this game and collecting or buying transmog if we crash every time we try to look at it or apply it. Actually we can’t even buy the transmog from the store because even that page crashes and reloads the game! Surely a bug affecting the shop is tier 1 urgent???

[Coliver-moon-guard]

Can you guys please have someone look into these? The voice line thing is straight up an accessibility issue.

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Currently on the Live realms and 11.2.5 PTR Dracthyr characters cannot apply the faction specific customization options from the achievement “With Flying Colors” to the Delver’s Dirigible mount while they are in their visage form, only in their draconic form. Additionally if a Dracthyr character applies the customization options while in their draconic form and then tries to use the mount in their visage form the mount will revert to its default green color scheme and if the faction decal is ap…

[Viri-kelthuzad]

Where are the Assassination rogue bug fixes? We have a list of bugs that were introduced when Caustic was fixed. It’s significantly impacting gameplay.

[Thrymyrden-stormrage]

Please fix the quest Soften Them Up, been bugged since launch and many people submitted reports

[Failedwizard-frostmourne (Failedwizard)]

PvP needs EMERGENCY tuning, there are multiple specs that are killing the season only a few weeks in to it.

[Vinipally-moon-guard]

And what about particle density? When will it be fixed? It still seems the same as always up to now.

Is the new spell density working?

I’ve changed it and didn’t notice any difference at all. I tried it on the world boss, and it seems like the same old spell density we had in 11.0 and 11.1. My friends tried it too, same result. Is it just not working, or is this “new” spell density basically the same as the old one?

[Misaa-shattered-hand]

@Kaivax

More Flawed Rancors are now present in Maldraxxus for “I Don’t Even Work Here”.

Was waiting to see this in patch notes before even thinking about doing this quest lol.

[Mafic-emerald-dream (Mafic)]

@Bargis-mankrik

wheres the class tuning? Pwarr and brew are so far ahead of other tanks its not even funny… theyre both basically a 4th dps…

@Failedwizard-frostmourne

PvP needs EMERGENCY tuning, there are multiple specs that are killing the season only a few weeks in to it.

Yeah more class tuning is needed right now.