Yeah classic kind of sucks. Believe it or not, vanilla did too. Wrath was probably the best expansion for a mix of QoL improvements, immersive, fun raids (no one, world wide, beat ICC LK 25H until first nerf), and engaging PvP. It was a time sink, but not in the artificial way retail is, and not in the painful way classic is.
Also, what’s up with streamers? It’s such a crazy weird fetish to watch someone play a video game you could play. It’s not even like you’re watching some freak of nature compete in an FPS or MOBA; you can literally be doing the same thing.
Personally, I had never heard of asmongold until a few weeks ago. Watched one of his videos. Neckbeard mouthbreather giving boring commentary while staring, dead eyed, at his monitor. I feel bad that there are people who actually care or enjoy the “content” these people put out and orient their WoW gaming experience around it.
Oh were to begin on the disagreement, first off Vanilla was great, TBC a little less so, Wrath may have had the harder more complicated raids, but all the QOL really started killing what was once a great game… LFR/LFD boom failure to communicate began, unless your only goal with the game was raiding end game, which was not mine nor a lot of other folks…
But again, its an opinion like everyone else, we all got them.
this is classic, not vanilla. Bliz is releasing content patches faster, they messed with drop rates, LAYERING??? MC cleared a week after release, by ppl in greens. AH completely screwed. Yea, totally the vanilla experience, huh??
Idk maybe you got burned out from Vanilla grind and lost interest? I never actually leveled any of my toons on all my old accounts, so I had a fresh experience for every expansion and was able to approach and evaluate each expansion from end game content, both PvE and PvP. Helped me avoid the burn out that lots of people got and also gave me the chance to play any class/spec I wanted to at max level.
If you want to look even further, Cata had some of the best dungeons on release (extremely difficult, required CC for every pull, etc.), some cool starting zones and probably the last good/balanced class and PvP expac, save when they got rid of talent trees. The main thing that ruined Cata was “QoL” improvements, as it was the first expansion where no one left their capital city once they hit max level. MoP was meh, WoD was more meh, Legion was terrible and BfA borderline unplayable.
No dude that is exactly why I never even bothered to play that expansion and left wow, they started homogenizing the game and I couldn’t make my assasination/sub rogue anymore, to hell with that, thet is where wow went truly to the trash can.
Classic isn’t Vanilla. It’s frozen yogurt. That being said, the core audience now would dictate the culture of what Classic is. Just like the older audience dictated what Vanilla was. This is what we have.
You use mongoose strike and counter strike on all the mobs you pull and heroic strike on the target mob. I use distraction shot to pull mobs back to me. Multi shot is a good opener so is explosive trap. And you can use hamstring to slow and sometimes lock down a mob. Also when fighting 1 mob u can use counter then backup and arcane and poison shot and get 1 maybe 2 auto shots in before the root wears off.
I also use a boar so if there is just to many mobs it can grab some Agro and also it can chase any mob on the clothies primarily if they go for healer . Also it has that 1 second root
You focus agility and stamina and basically ignore the other stats
The social experience has changed a bit, given the change in the playerbase since the mid-2000s, certainly, and our own experience with the game is now informed by years of experiences and memories. I would compare it to being able to travel to the past, to a time you remember fondly. Being in that time as you are now would not be the same as it was for you when you first lived it. You are different, no matter your surroundings.
You just have to decide whether you enjoy Classic today and act accordingly.
Blizzard should NOT alter the game to suit those who are unhappy with Classic, however. That is what led to the death of the Vanilla WoW experience by a thousand cuts in the first place. Getting Classic as close to Vanilla as possible is the way to go, no matter how players react to it.
we cant get an eye of sulfuras to drop then get the legendary crafted in 20 minutes
then organize 4 full raid groups to try out new legendary in enemy factions capitol in 5 minutes
only to be met with the entire enemy faction defending their doorway
we cant show up and stand next to org bank and get thousands of gold handed to us
i first started watching wow streamers early in bfa when i was learning to tank the dungeons
watching top skilled players go about their play session routines was helpful
how they organized groups was helpful
i was never an asmongold guy
i may have watched a few videos years ago as i would research “gold making in wow”
i watched some of the stream for the last few days and, though i protest, i found it somewhat entertaining and enjoyed it for what it was- using the platform of wow to “create” their own content on top of it
I’m not suggesting cata was the epitome of PvP, just that it was the last expansion where there was some individualization b/w classes and specs. It’s only gotten far, far worse.
Maybe you can’t. I can play the game as competently as most of the streamers. I can and have created my own content by cleverly engaging in world PvP by thinking outside of the box.
The people who fetishize and idolize streamers are so odd to me. It’s not like they’re playing pro sports, or you’re watching a really rich person crash Ferraris for fun (i.e. something most of us absolutely can’t do). It’s just some dude playing the same game you’re playing.
I just can’t imagine spending any of the 24 hours I get each day watching someone play a video game I could be playing. But to each their own.