Unreal that OP got 1 like and the very first comment got 50.
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As long as warriors are forever the bottom tier at anything in SoD, I will have at least that going for me. 20 Years of being completely dominant in every iteration of classic, you can afford to take several seats for the entirety of SoD.
âEat your uselessness and like it.â
(Hopefully with the new rogue poison, we can phase Warriors out of PvE too.)
You know you have longer range than their charge right? just keep holding strafe and pressing instant casts and you win and they cant do anything.
Everyone better than warriors. Thats why I blast shamans like you on my sp ez
I hope many more nerfs are planned.
I am sad that Way of Earth will hurt shammies in pvp, as I would have preferred double RB nerf. That said, thereâs no reason that a shammy tank should be top DPS. If you want to tank, use a shield.
I think the point he is making is that shaman, which has less armor and wonât be running way of earth post nerf, will die further from the target than a warrior who can charge in.
Iâm not sure I agree since most warrior players are trash and likely will die in the wrong stance 9/10 times.
bc classic wow pvp is balanced around your average 1550 challenger. nothing new and simply expected lol.
And you got a gift in Freedom totem. How does Ret get into melee range? Same thing. At least you have ranged snares.
you mean will charge in and then intercept the furthest target before a heal can finish on them
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Hey Rogue main here and god tier pvp class.
Eat your nerf and like it.
As for you, Iâm glad you found a guild willing to gimp their raid to bring you along.
Not as gimped as your new spec.
Enjoy the bottom.
Exactly.
Newsflash OP - Shaman are supposed to be the weakest melee class in melee combat by design. Their ability to kite means that in a well-balanced PvP environment, the Shaman should be required to rely on whittling their opponent down from range before they get into melee - they should always lose if their opponent gets on top of them before theyâve had the chance to whittle down their foe.
You arenât supposed to kite Shaman, Shaman are supposed to, by design, be flimsy and kite YOU. The fact that OP has the relationship backwards just shows how absurdly ridiculously out of whack Shaman are.
Rockbiter is nerfed. It is being nerfed by 90%. DPS Shaman will run Windfury + Flametongue. Only Tank Shaman will use Rockbiter to enable Way of Earth.
Well thatâs a bold statementâŠand entirely trash.
Every melee outside Paladin can kiteâŠ
Trouble is Meleeâs do not WANT to kite because while theyâre kiting, theyâre not doing much either.
This, I think, might be the most braindead take I have ever seen on the forums, ever. Like, I try to maintain composure in most scenarios presenting facts and logic and only trading pithy quips rarely. (Such as the salty warrior and rogue in this one.)
But I am gobsmacked at just how awful your take here is. Thatâs how Enhancement was in Classic, and youâll notice that they didnât exist. If you saw a Shaman in PvP in classic, they were elemental or Resto. (Or they were trying to relive a video they saw on line without knowing that was highlights from before the WF ICD was added.)
I think what makes your take here particularly egregious is that Shamans (outside of SoD) do not have a method from breaking slows, and melee leeway means that burning your 5 min Trinket to dump the first 15 second Hamstring means you just get hamstrung again.
Or slow poisoned
Or Rooted
Or Stunned
Thereâs a reason Enhancement Shamans didnât exist in classic, and itâs because of this âDesign Philosophyâ you have⊠which exists in no other iteration of WoW, ever. (Thatâs for good reason.)
Not even WoW SoD kept that insanely stupid philosophy. Please stop talking about Shamans and PvP, forever. Iâm weighing as to whether to pre-ignore you to save my brain from whatever contagious rot gave you the idea that a Melee spec was supposed to be glass in melee, where is has to be to do its damage.
Thereâs a meme clip somewhere paraphrased âeveryone is now dumber for hearing youâ And that perfectly fits that ridiculous nature of the take you dropped.
Good day.
EDIT: Iâve opted for Pre-Ignore. Iâve experienced better smelling arguments come out of burn bits in the sand box. Just just wow.
Literally no one asked.
In other news, enjoy mortality enh friends!
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They existed plenty in original Vanilla.
Weâre not outside of SoD. In SoD, Shaman have an instant spammable slow and they have an instant snare immunity. They are a premier kiter.
Thatâs not correct at all. Enhancement have historically been the filmiest melee class for multiple expansions. When you encounter Turbo, Enhance is often the kill target. It relies on skills like Lightning Lasso to be able to keep up pressure when it has pressure applied to it. Youâre absolutely just wrong.
You have brain rot if you think Shaman, the filmiest melee across time, is supposed to be tanky.
Iâve played since the beginning of this game, Shaman has had its day in the sun plenty without ever being a tanky spec. Never, ever, EVER EVER has Shaman be considered resilient. Theyâve always been a glass cannon melee spec that relies on doing a lot of damage + having spammable purge to be relevant. Theyâve never, ever ever EVER been a class that wins going toe to toe with other melee.
Shamans are the anti Paladin. Shaman have a massive pool of tricks and high damage but theyâre filmsy. Thatâs Shaman. Thatâs the essence of Shaman. Anyone who says otherwise doesnât know what Shaman is about and is probably a FOTM reroll.
The only thing that was unbelievable was how long it took for them to nerf it. Iâm not convinced it is enough, but itâs a good start.
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Absolutely. Literally, LITERALLY it almost killed SoD. Itâs insane they let that sit that long. Aggrend says âit isnât worthwhile to balance when a new phase is imminentâ but they let Shaman be overpowered for what, 6-7 weejs?