The Unofficial Saurok Playable Race Discussion Megathread! 🐊

Bagzak-rexxar · June 6, 2022, 4:52pm

Speculation regarding info on Dragonflight’s preorder incentives is that it might be announced as early as July.

In the business world, most businesses have quarterly reporting on their revenue, usually given to shareholders. July begins a new quarter, and it is possible that this could be a factor in holding off on making Dragonflight preorders available.

It is of course speculation, and it doesn’t mean we’ll definitely see something announced in July. There could be other factors as well, such as wanting to have a more concrete date range of when Dragonflight could realistically release. Given all the new features and how complicated Dracthyr and their new class are, I imagine it would be a lot of work.

There is also WotLK Classic to consider, since news of that becoming available may effect Dragonflight preorder announcements to some extent. I can’t say whether WotLK Classic or Dragonflight preorder availability will come first, but I imagine marketing will have them be released separately, unless we get lucky.

Hopefully, we’ll know more info sooner than later. I want to put that rumor of at least one new playable race of some sort tied to Dragonflight preorders to bed. Whenever preorders are available, I’ll be sure to cover it and list out the preorder incentives. Assuming we get new playable races of any sort, I’ll cover them as well. And I’ll also be covering Dracthyr as NDA’s lift and Blizzard allows videos and such to be reported on them.

Of course, I’ll keep an open mind with any new playable races, but as I’ve said before, if we are getting any new playable races, my hope is that they would be something requested for quite some time. But it remains to be seen if we’re getting any playable races at all, so we’ll see what happens or doesn’t happen then I guess.

But regardless of what does happen, I still continue onward supporting my dream of seeing playable Horde Saurok someday!

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 7, 2022, 5:32pm

I’ve been in a bit of a Star Wars mood lately, and something I wanted to share for some Saurok idea inspiration is the Dewback creature. Specifically, the little toy one you can get at Disney Land/World in the Galaxy’s Edge section.

Dewbacks are the reptilian beasts you see storm troopers riding in A New Hope in this extended scene:

And what I wanted to show was the toy version that’s sold in the Creature Stall section of Galaxy’s Edge:

Note that you can actually move the tail to have it chomp and roar.

So why show this off? A couple of reasons.

First, I wanted to show off that toy because the scale pattern on most of its body looks really neat and detailed. It’s something I wanted to show off as reference for designing Saurok scale patterns and colors.

The other is to show off a reptilian mount to possibly inspire ideas for Saurok mounts. Mushan are a top contender and they can certainly look pretty ferocious, though a lot depends on whether Blizzard would want to keep the current mushan mounts as a prestige mount or if they would slightly edit them some to make them a bit more unique compared to the existing mounts.

Of course, a lot depends on where playable Saurok would reside. Some suggestions would be something like devilsaurs, especially if they would make a home in Un’goro Crater, or some sort of reptilian beast that would look as ferocious as the Saurok riding it. It’s always possible that if playable Saurok reside on Pandaria, they could use mushan mounts or take some with them to where ever they would wind up. Definitely lots of possibilities for Saurok racial mounts!

As for Galaxy’s Edge and that dewback, it’s something I’d love to get if I ever got to go there, along with building a droid and getting a talking battle droid. I’d have to pick a name for it, though. Something to think about since I could even utilize the name for something in WoW like a Hunter pet…

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 8, 2022, 7:13pm

Despite E3 being canceled entirely this year, there are a few gaming events coming up I thought I would mention. Not really expecting Blizzard to announce anything at these events, but it is still worth nothing just in case.

First is the Summer Game Fest, where the focus is mainly on games already announced. Not really expecting much here at all, but still felt it was notable to mention.

Summer Game Fest starts Thursday, June 9th, at 11 AM Pacific:

Next is the Xbox & Bethesda Showcase. Now the official acquisition of Activision-Blizzard won’t be until next year, but there could still be something. The focus is Xbox stuff specifically, but PC games also get included in as well. I suspect if we see anything, it might be something Activision in general as opposed to being Blizzard specific.

The Xbox & Bethesda Showcase begins Sunday, June 12th, at 10 AM Pacific:

And a bit later on the same day is the PC Gaming Show, which focuses on…well, PC Games of course. I don’t believe Blizzard has ever been apart of the event in past years and I can’t remember if Activision ever did. If anything were to be announced, I’d expect it at the Xbox Showcase mentioned above. Still figured I would mention it just in case.

The PC Gaming Show begins on Sunday, June 12th at 12:30 PM Pacific:

Again, not really expecting any announcementss from Blizzard at these events, but you never know. If something comes up of any interest, I’ll be sure to report on it in both my megathreads.

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 9, 2022, 6:51pm

I came across some neat videos that have some aspects of Bossk from the EA Star Wars Battlefront games that would work very well for Saurok racials and such.

In the EA Star Wars Battlefront games, Bossk is one of hero characters you can spawn as when playing as the Imperials in certain modes. While I don’t expect Saurok to be wielding blasters and flying star ships, there were some interesting aspects that I wanted to share.

This is a video of Bossk gameplay from EA Battlefront 1:

And this is a video of Bossk gameplay from Battlefront 2:

-Heat Vision-

Heat vision, also referred to as infravision in some games, is something that is in different Lizardmen races. In Battlefront, the surrounding area turns blue and other players and CPU are highlighted in bright orange and yellow, letting you see enemies more easily.

Infravision is something I could see working in PvP, though since I don’t actually PvP, I can’t tell whether it would be practical or even OP. Imagine Saurok players being able to detect Alliance players in stealth this way, or being able to see where Alliance players are if the racial is used in a similar fashion. I imagine the racial would be something you toggle on and only works for a small amount of time with a cool down. Different colors for body heat would indicate whether a player is on your team or on the enemy’s team.

As for PvE, it could work the same way. It would allow you to see stealthed mobs and also where some mobs are in general in an area. Maybe not the best for bright areas, but I could see it being useful in dark areas.

As I said, I don’t PVP, so people who do actively engage in it would be better at whether infravision would be neat or a bit OP. It is a cool idea in general, though how practical it would be in general for PvE I don’t know.

-Regeneration-

Ah yes, the usual racial a lot of Lizardmen races in different media have. Bossk is no exception in the EA Battlefront games, as he does get a regeneration. In the game, he gets it for each kill he gets, but Trandoshans generally have passive regeneration.

For Saurok, I lean towards a passive regeneration like Darkspear Trolls have as opposed to a button racial like Zandalari Trolls have. It’s a feature that should be automatic in my opinion, and would be either near the same amount as Darkspear Troll regeneration or slightly bigger in HP regained.

I’m sure there is a way to balance it with it being a passive racial. Regeneration is a pretty iconic feature of Lizardmen in general, and should be something playable Saurok would have.

-A Culture of Hunting-

in the Battlefront games, Bossk makes comments of hunting as you play as him. In Star Wars, Trandoshan society has a really big emphasis on hunting, with Trandoshans amassing Jagannath points for kills, which gets tallied by a celestial being known as The Scorekeeper, who tallies them to determine where a Trandoshan will end up in the afterlife. I think the type of kill matters, so it isn’t just them slaughtering everything for the heck of it.

The idea of hunting is something I’ve mentioned that could be a cool aspect of Saurok culture. Especially if you take the whole eating meat of kills being important to Saurok society idea. I imagine it being honorable kills as opposed to just mindlessly killing anything that moves (unless it involves something like the Mogu, their blood sworn enemy), as the hunt portion would be something very important. If there was ever a faction war again, it would be fair game in battle against the Alliance.

The idea is a neat theme that would help differentiate them from Dracthyr and give them some personality. If you apply the honorable kill part, it makes them fit the Horde even more as well. Obviously, it would require fleshing out to make them more like honorable hunters as opposed to psychopathic killers. It’s still a neat theme if done right. Especially since some members of the Horde have hunting as a very important part of their culture.

-A fitting voice-

The last feature I wanted to point out was Bossk’s voice, specifically in the EA Battlefront 1 video. You’ll notice he has a raspy voice and some emphasis on “ssss” sounds. It’s pretty close to how I could imagine Saurok voices sounding. Not exactly how I imagine it, but it is close.

That’s all I can really think of at present. It’s really neat to find videos that help showcase aspects of Lizardmen that helps a lot when imagining playable Saurok ideas. It’s a reason I look for them and share them on here. Hopefully, we’ll be able to see some of these ideas get implemented should playable Horde Saurok become a reality!

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Warsnarl-thrall · June 10, 2022, 12:23pm

Just stopped by to support your thread.

I keep forgetting about Saurok and instead think of Sethrak when I think of reptilian races. My apologies.

+1 Playable Saurok (Regardless of faction)

Bagzak-rexxar · June 10, 2022, 5:31pm

I really appreciate the support. Seeing people interested in playable Horde Saurok and voicing their support means a lot to me. Thank you!

On a similar note, I looked at the number of views this megathread has and after a little over three years, it has almost 30,360 views! It’s pretty amazing to think about how many people have viewed this megathread!

I think one reason is that a playable Lizardman race is popular in general for MMO’s, especially in the fantasy setting. I also think a big reason is because this megathread pops up on Saurok related search engines like Google and Yahoo. In fact, a number of images shared in here even pop up in image searches. I know we’ve had a few come across here that way, and I’m sure it interests others who happen to see it in searches as well.

I said it before and I’ll keep saying it, I am very thankful for anyone who comes and checks out our work here and also helps to support playable Saurok. It means a lot to me. Especially when I see others on the forums and elsewhere also share interest in playable Saurok. It would be neat if I had some sort of effect on it.

As long as I keep playing WoW, I’ll keep at my dream of hoping to see Ogre and Saurok player characters running around Orgrimmar as champions of the Horde someday! Thank you to everyone who has supported us!

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 11, 2022, 1:11pm

I’ve been thinking some on the post I want to make to explain the differences between dragon based and lizard based races in fantasy and how there are a lot of differences and I may hold off on that until Dracthyr are out.

One of the big reasons is that I need to be able to see what Dracthyr are like with personality and culture before I can compare and contrast them with Saurok. Of course, I can’t really do that until Dragonflight comes out and I get to look at the questlines and such for Dracthyr…which is going to be a bit of a wait.

Despite that, I think it would add more to the post if I were able to do that as opposed to attempting to do it in two parts with long periods of time between them. I might be able to use examples of how I view dragon based races different from lizard based races much easier if I had some more examples as well. Comparing Dracthyr to Saurok specifically also helps in the context of WoW, as the points would be a bit more meaningful.

I know that we’ll likely have comments pop up here and there about how we have Dracthyr and don’t need more reptilian races, which is a silly argument in many ways, but such is the way of the forums at times. I mean, we can have multiple flavors of elves, dwarves, orcs, trolls, and so on with unique characteristics and cultures, so I don’t see why reptilian races would be an exception.

And to be clear as usual, I’m excited for Dracthyr and don’t dislike them. They do have some disappointments in several ways, but on the bright side, it gives even better reason to see both Sethrak and Saurok become playable. My comparing Dracthyr to Saurok won’t be one of complaining, but moreso showing how unique they all would be and how they can bring some amazing stuff to the game and still feel different.

Dragon based races and lizard based races are quite different from each other. It’s sort of how High Elves would be different than Wood Elves, for example. It’s why I hope to see Sethrak and Saurok join Dracthyr on that character creation screen someday, as they all can bring amazing things to the game. Hopefully, we’ll see that happen someday!

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord · June 11, 2022, 5:06pm

Dracthyr won’t fill either my desire for Sethrak or Saurok.

They’re Dracthyr not Saurok not Sethrak.

Full stop.

Bagzak-rexxar · June 12, 2022, 12:01am

I’ll enjoy my Dracthyr characters and looking at their lore, but they are no replacement for Saurok or Sethrak. Dragons are neat, but they are far different from snakes and lizards.

I’m hoping Dracthyr won’t be viewed as the “definitive reptilian race” by Blizzard, where they won’t ever consider what both Sethrak and Saurok can bring as playable races. It’s a silly worry, especially with multiple flavors of elves and other races currently playable, but it’s hard to know whether that could be a possible thought they have or not.

Besides, they all have distinct differences that would be completely different experiences, which I hope players get to experience someday. I’m hoping Blizzard will be open minded and keep looking at fan feedback for Sethrak and Saurok, and consider them both as playable races to go alongside Dracthyr.

I still plan to continue showing how awesome Saurok would be as a playable Horde race, and I know Sethrak fans will also continue to show off how awesome Sethrak would be as a playable race as well. I really think having all three as playable races would bring a lot to the character creation screen in several ways and would be amazing. Tortollans would also be neat as well if they are a possibility.

Let’s get some more reptiles on that character creation screen!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 12, 2022, 9:51pm

I watched both the Xbox & Bethesda Games Showcase and the PC Gaming Show, and as I expected, nothing WoW related announced at either. At least for the Xbox Showcase, it is focused on Xbox stuff that is also on PC, so I can understand not seeing WoW stuff there unless it happens to go on Xbox someday.

However, we did see some Blizzard announcements with some general Overwatch 2 stuff and Diablo 4 with the Necromancer as the 5th and final class for that game, aside from future expansions for it of course. I imagine once the Microsoft acquisition goes through, we’ll see more Blizzard stuff announced in general at Xbox showcases in the future. It’ll be important to keep an eye on anything Xbox does for announcement streams in the future just in case.

There is also an extended Xbox Games Showcase on Tuesday the 14th at 10 AM Pacific, which is suppose to have developer interviews, deeper dives, and such on what I assume is already announced stuff. Not really expecting anything WoW there again as usual, but figured I’d mention it just in case.

Looks like we’ll be waiting some more for Dragonflight preorders to be announced. Hopefully it’ll be sooner than later, but whenever it is, I’ll be sure to report on it in both my megathreads.

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 13, 2022, 5:14pm

I’ve thought some on the general idea of neutral races and also Saurok and wanted to comment on it some. First, I’ll talk about neutral races in general.

In my own personal opinion, neutral races are pretty neat and can be interesting provided they are special circumstances as opposed to a regular trend going forward for a majority of races.

Neutral races are pretty neat and if done right, can be very interesting. Plenty of NPC races out there could work well as a neutral race. However, I do feel that faction identity is still fairly important, even with an armistice that is about as fragile as a glass swan in a hailstorm.

Plenty of races do have a definitive faction that they should join, like how Kelfin and Ogres are Horde races while Jinyu/Ankoan and Furbolg would be Alliance races. They’re races I don’t really see being neutral at all and I would expect to be part of their respective factions paired with another race that fits the opposite faction.

Some races, however, would work very well as neutral races. Sethrak, for example, seem like a race that would do well as a neutral race. While they lean a lot towards Horde story line wise, there are some arguments with them working with Alliance as well and they’ve had strong support for them on that faction as well. Making them neutral seems like it would be the best of both worlds (of Warcraft!) and please more than just releasing them on one faction.

That said, I would think that adding in a neutral race would be something not being done regularly. If you keep adding neutral races and only them, it starts to effect the faction identity some when both factions suddenly have multiples of the same race. This isn’t to say neutral races are bad, but moreso are good when done in moderation.

I don’t really expect only neutral races going forward. As I said, a lot of races make the most sense being only part of one faction. I do acknowledge that creating one neutral race does help when spending resources as opposed to two separate ones, but I also think having pairs of races can help generate more excitement if chosen correctly.

Currently we have two neutral races (Pandaren and the upcoming Dracthyr) and I’d be fine seeing more. I just personally think it shouldn’t be the only type of race we see going forward, and that faction identity, theme, and personality is important for some potential races.

Now that I talked some about neutral races in general, I’ll comment on the idea of neutral Saurok.

In my own personal opinion, I still view Saurok as a Horde race, but if it would be the only way to get playable Saurok, I’d be fine with them being neutral.

I’ve made some arguments on how I feel Saurok would be best as a Horde race instead of an Alliance one and I still stand firm on that opinion. It’s true that there isn’t anything in-game to show them leaning to one faction over the other, but to me, the Horde makes more sense for them to join between the two.

Could neutral Saurok work? I’m sure it could. It’d be a bit odd to see them in Alliance cities compared to something like Sethrak, though I can’t deny Saurok also being on the Alliance as a neutral race being a possibility.

The thing about Saurok being neutral is I’d still get playable Horde Saurok out of it, so it wouldn’t be as if I’d be particularly mad at them being neutral. So in the grand scheme of things, I’m open to it only because Horde Saurok would be a thing, though I still firmly believe they’d be best as a Horde only race.

Ultimately, I’m open to a lot of races being neutral, but I do think it should be on a case by case basis, where it makes sense, as opposed to only seeing neutral races in the future whether a race clearly fits one faction or not for various reasons.

Funnily enough, for any race that becomes neutral that I initially viewed fitting the Alliance better, I’d always make them on the Horde. It’s my preferred faction, so I’d always go that direction with at least one neutral character if given the choice.

And as I said, as long as I get playable Horde Saurok, I’d be content if they would end up neutral.

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 14, 2022, 5:16pm

As time goes on, more and more talk about that “leak” of at least one playable race continues to blaze across the internet. It is just a rumor, of course, and it could be that we wouldn’t see any new playable races at all, but it does make some sense to have early access to a new race that isn’t Dracthyr while we wait for Dragonflight.

I seem to recall it being mentioned somewhere that the new race was specifically stated as part of Dragonflight’s preorder incentive was not Dracthyr. While early access to making Dracthyr in a prepatch is very likely, the main issue with them is that they can only be the new class. Given that we’re seeing a new talent system revamp, it doesn’t make a lot of sense to spend the resources to implement Evokers into the current patch, only to tear it all down very soon afterwards to build it up again.

However, we have a lot of time until that repatch ever releases, and incentives need to be there to entice people to preorder the next expansion. We saw a couple of pairs or allied races for BfA preorders and allied race/Pandaren Death Knights for Shadowlands. It makes some sense to have at least a new race or two for people to be interested and either take the time to level them or to potentially have revenue streams in the form of level boosts and race changes.

It’s hard to really know what could be coming, assuming we would get a new race of any kinda. The “leak” mentions one race, which would be neutral. I suppose it could make some sense, given that Dracthyr likely would be taking a lot of resources in general, so having one race instead of a pair, while still a lot of work, would be less taxing on resources. Granted, I would prefer a pair or two, myself, but that could be wishful thinking.

And assuming we’re getting a playable race, the question remains of what it could be. If it is a neutral race, it seems like that limits potential selections in my opinion. However, popular speculation seems to be about the Tuskarr for a few reasons.

Tuskarr are going to appear in Dragonflight, where I assume we’ll be helping them with something. They also are getting female NPC’s and also children NPC’s, the latter of which has been mentioned as a potential sign of a race becoming playable (Do Saurok eggs count as Saurok children? Just curious…).

Tuskarr also have been a regular request to be playable. I’ve seen them being asked for on occasions off and on throughout many expansions. I also know of at least one content creator who has been a pretty big supporter of them becoming playable. I can’t say whether that affected their chances or not, but I can’t be mad if it does. After all, I’d likely do something similar and within reason if I were in a position to do so. Tuskarr aren’t that bad of a choice also, in my opinion.

If we did get playable Tuskarr, I’m curious if they would be from Northrend, who we’ve dealt with before, or if they would be connected with the ones on the Dragon Isles…in which we haven’t gone there yet, so unless they traveled off it, I don’t know how that would work.

Anyway, as I said, it is up in the air what race or races we’d be getting, assuming we are getting any playable races at all to begin with. If it’s Tuskarr, I’m fine with it. I even picked out a name just in case, but nothing is set in stone, so I’m wanting to keep an open mind. I said it before and I’ll say it again, whatever race or races do become playable, I hope they would be ones that people have requested for quite awhile. I think that would be the best thing to do while potentially making more people happy…and of course, I’ll keep hope for playable Horde Saurok in the meantime.

Playable Saurok for the Horde, please!

Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord · June 14, 2022, 5:32pm

I kinda hope both are one in the same.

That the tuskarr we see in DF are those who fled the Scourge.

It does make a lot of sense to me that the Tuskarr might be the neutral Allied Race since they just got a update to the model and female models on top.

Could be neat.

I really hope blizzard expand ARs much more than that though. Saurok, ogres, furbolg, Sethrak all come to mind quickly for me.

San’layn I still think should be an AR.

Then there’s ethereals, jinyu/Ankoan, Kelfin, Saberon, arrakoa, Revantusk trolls, Taunka, the Frostborn dwarves and so many more.

Costar-sargeras · June 14, 2022, 5:35pm

We need to stop putting native-based races into one faction and perpetuating a deep-core game infrastructure around racism.

Bagzak-rexxar · June 14, 2022, 6:03pm

It does seem like they have a lot going for them. And they do have some popularity in general, so it isn’t like they came out of nowhere.

The only other neutral race I can really think of that would make sense and be well received, in my own personal opinion, would be Sethrak. At this point, again in my own personal opinion, it would be much better received for them to be neutral than putting them on just one faction. There has been a lot of support for them going Alliance, even if it makes more sense storyline-wise for them to be closer to Horde. With there being an armistice, it would be a good opportunity to make them neutral and would make a lot of people happy.

I think it’s very possible to see more unique races like Vulpera as opposed to races that are variants of core races as allied races. I think a lot of the allied races were variants because it was easier to make them playable as opposed to building them from the ground up (though Kul Tirans were built from the ground up).

With customization races, I’m wondering if we may see more of that happen for sub races and maybe see full races become playable in the future. I’d be more open to the idea if customization races were treated better, of course. I could still see races like Vulpera, even if they reuse assets from existing races, being new full playable races.

Very much agree. They’d be able to have more vampiric features as their own race. I’m not sure what the chances are of that with Darkfallen as a customization race, though. At best, I’m expecting maybe some new customization options and San’layn joining the Desolate Council. Who knows?

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord · June 14, 2022, 6:27pm

I kinda agree with this.

I’m a big proponent of them being a neutral race where the Devoted go Horde and the Remnants of the Faithless throw their support to the Alliance to stay alive.

I suppose I can see the Ethereals potentially be neutral as well as the Arakkoa but those seem harder to sus out really than Sethrak and Tuskarr.

I’d kinda like to see AR’s shift to more of this. Less variants of the main race and more unique races using a similar skeleton.

With Customizations coming with options for different racials to make your Bronzebeard into a Wildhammer proper and such. Even better if they add optional voice options and mounts and such.

Blizzard has put themselves, not for the first time, into a bit of a bind where it will probably be messy no matter how they try to fix it.

Bagzak-rexxar · June 14, 2022, 7:40pm

It just seems like the best course of action for Sethrak, in my opinion. If they went with one faction, no matter which one, there is going to be a huge kerfuffle. Them going neutral would really gain player interest and would be better received, in my opinion.

It also wouldn’t really affect playable Horde Saurok also if done that way. Especially given how different they both are. They got unique stuff to bring to the table and are awesome in their own way.

Ethereals I could see being neutral. There are some helping the Horde and Alliance with the portals, and it could always be a case of working for the highest bidder as opposed to aligning with the beliefs of either faction. There could be something written to make it more than money, of course. Maybe two different rival Ethereal groups being involved, for example.

Arakkoa could be neutral as well, I’m sure. There are definitely arguments that could be made for them on either faction. I still lean them more towards Alliance, myself, but depending on how they’re handled, I’m sure something could be done to make them neutral.

While it’s possible we’ll see more neutral races in the future, I’m sure we’ll also see some new races that are only on one faction still. Some of them make sense only on one faction, as well.

It makes me wish that a sub race system was created. It’s possible that some of the customization races would’ve had a better chance of flourishing as a result. As it stands, it just muddies the water to have something like two Dwarf Clans as playable races and a third just being one of the playable Dwarf clans just LARPing as them.

On the bright side, at least Saurok would be their own race as opposed to a customization race. I’d even be fine if Worgen assets were reused for them, as I don’t really mind assets being reused as long as it makes sense.

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 15, 2022, 3:53pm

A few days ago, MrGM gathered some of the different animations and emotes we’ve seen so far for the Dracthyr dragonkin form. Note that these are close to when they were revealed, so things can always change or be improved when we actually see them in a playable state.

Video is here:

It’s a bit hard for me to really comment on them since they’re far from being completed. I do think a lot of the animations and models look neat, though I’m still disappointed in the lack of armor transmogs for the dragonkin form. Makes me feel like if they got more classes for Dracthyr, they would look less interesting with only a few transmog slots available for them. But on the bright side, at least that can make them different from Sethrak and Saurok.

One thing I can contrast between Dracthyr and Saurok is that Dracthyr look a bit more elegant-like while Saurok would look more ferocious. MrGM mentions that Dracthyr can have a goofy/silly look to them, such as when they do the /wave emote, and they shouldn’t be taken too seriously. In contrast, I view Saurok as somewhat similar to Worgen, where they can look like they’re going to eat your face at times but can look silly when the situation calls for it, like with some animations you see your character do in cut scenes.

I’ll be able to give a more in-depth analysis once we get to beta and NDA’s lift. As you know, I do look at reptilian races and like to look at them for Saurok idea inspiration, so I will be sharing Dracthyr information once we’re allowed to do so. I’ll also be sharing Evoker stuff since that is tied into Dracthyr heavily, given Dracthyr can only be Evokers.

Still excited for Dracthyr, and of course, I’ll be continuing to support playable Horde Saurok. I still strongly think between Dracthyr, Sethrak, and Saurok, there are some unique features of each that would add amazing experiences that would complement the game quite a bit if they were to all become playable races.

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Bagzak-rexxar · June 17, 2022, 4:36pm

I came across some clips of Bossk in the Clone Wars cartoon and one of Frisk in Star Wars Squadrons I wanted to share with regards to their voices, which I’m trying to share examples of to help give a voice direction that would be fitting for Saurok.

Bossk videos are here:

The voice sounds pretty neat and is somewhat close to how I could imagine Saurok speaking, though not quite. It needs a little more rasp and a bit more Lizardmen features, such as the occasional emphasis on S syllables and some hissing. The voice isn’t bad by any means in of itself or in the context of that cartoon, of course. However, for the context of imagining Saurok voices, Bossk does sound much better to me in the Battlefront games and is much closer to how I could see Saurok talking.

To contrast that, this is a video showing Frisk from the Star Wars Squadrons game:

Frisk sounds to me somewhat like how a Saurok could sound when friendly. Or possibly knows you’re going to bring some meat for a BBQ or maybe a meat lovers pizza in the near future. It’s not often you find sound samples of friendly Lizardmen races. It’s something I should keep an eye out to share, as being friends with Saurok would be a reality if they were to ever become playable.

I’ll keep an eye out for more voice clips of Lizardmen races to share for Saurok idea inspiration!

Playable Saurok for the Horde please!

Fenelon-wyrmrest-accord · June 17, 2022, 7:05pm

I love both.

Would really enjoy having that sort of voice for my Saurok.

Both reasonable and lizardlike.

Probably should mention I generally like Trandoshans too… Lol