The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

That’s your opinion.

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Because in a two faction game, visuals matter. Yes Void Elves use the void, but they look different as well. High Elves do not.

We aren’t special snowflakes like Alleria is.

It’s also Blizzards opinion.

A good description of what Blood Elves are.

I don’t get why people get upset over High Elves when the Void Elves were literally made out of Blood Elves, clashing against Blood Elf fantasy and thematic and taking characteristics that used to make the Blood Elves unique.

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It’s interesting that you refer to them as “goody two shoes”, when what they’re perhaps most well-known for in recent years is a violent expulsion (i.e. ethnic cleansing) of their Fel-riddled kinfolk from Dalaran. The majority of the people who actively engage themselves in the Blood Elves narrative would argue the exact opposite.

Odd.

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A race that uses dark magic… that isn’t reflected in any of the available classes. One and a half specs deal with it. Flavorful!

No, the void is the excuse. Or, at the very least, we would be able to look like Alleria, since “the void is the difference”.

The “difference” is blue skin. They took a blood elf and painted blue. Boom, new race! They couldn’t bother to give it a proper home, a story, or even more than a single important NPC.

Meanwhile, high elves could be made different just like the nightborne were made different: tatoos, different posture, different customization options. The posture of the nightborne female and the proportions of the nightborne male are what really make them different from night elves, not their skin tone.

You are just going out of your way to defend the laziest race ever created.

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You don’t even grind rep with them to get them. You grind rep from a completely separate unrelated race. Broken.

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10,000 years of isolation with the Nightwell is what altered the Nightborne into their current state. This doesn’t apply to High Elves.

That’s the in-lore excuse, not what was done to the models to make them different. They changed posture, gave them slightly different skin tones, tatoos and different eye color. And it worked wonders.

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And yet you are posting as a race who was given a similar treatment.

This is why I recommended you look into why the Nightborne are known by their transliterated name, instead of a colloquial one. If you had, you’d realize that they (Nightborne) continue to identify as Night Elves.

They aren’t biologically unique, but rather culturally unique – and it is these cultural divergences which were then utilized, as “established lore reasons”, to explain the visual differences between them and other Night Elves.

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And this kind of treatment is what we want to the High Elves, Sherlock. Just because the only difference we have in game is the eye color it doesn’t mean that this is the only thing that set them apart from the Blood Elves in visual terms.
The difference in treatment we want is to give them different visual features that are iconic to them, not just throwing void at them and pretending that this is a real compromise.

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I’m posting with the “compromise” I’m not satisfied with, and asking for a better deal.

The fact that I’m playing as a void elf and I’m not satisfied strengthens my position, it does not weaken it. Try harder.

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And yet they call themselves the Shal’dorei, no longer worship Elune, ect. And they are biologically unique; not only did the original adults change, so did their children. They are not Night Elves culturally or biologically.

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Have they really been altered enough though? void elves are a simple palette swap and nightbourne didn’t even get that.

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You bring that back and call it a win? Well, i guess you missed some thousands of posts into the discussion them.

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The differences between Night Elves and Nightborne aren’t even that pronounced.

Tall Purple Night Dwelling Elf.

One is just skinnier and has their ears at a different angle.

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Compromise means you don’t get everything you want. You got Thalassian elves on Alliance. You got the ability to be rangers and magisters. Sorry the skin and hair tones aren’t exactly what you wanted, but that’s what Blizzard decided. If you want fleshy skin tones and blond hair, Blood Elves are waiting for you.