The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

None of the people that asked for Ma’ghar did because they didn’t liked green orcs, in fact they played green orcs and wanted something different.
Saying that we should not be allowed to ask for High Elves because we got Void Elves instead is like saying that people shouldn’t ask for Sanlayn because they have Blood Elves, or people shouldn’t ask for Broken because they already have Draenei.
You people are just trying to censor us based on opinions, or this is pure spite.
We want to have our right to ask for something we would like in the game as paying customers without people yelling “HIGH ELVES ARE BLOOD ELVES” “YOU HAVE VOID ELVES, SHUT UP AND PLAY”.

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Don’t agree, don’t care, and you’re just wasting your time posting if you think anything you can possibly say will somehow end this discussion.

I’m stubborn and passionate and not prone to giving up. I’ll keep pushing for what I want till I get it or the game shuts down. Trying to change my mind on this issue is tantamount to trying to tell the Earth to stop spinning. It just isn’t going to happen.

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I would say the metric of player satisfaction and enjoyment should be of the utmost importance to Blizzard right now considering how poorly received BFA has been. That’s not to say High Elves are everything wrong with it, but Void Elves and High Elves are one of the symptoms of the cause of the issue at hand; Blizzard refusing to listen to it’s players.

This having been said, the Developers asked us to let them know what races we’d like for Allied Races, and High Elves have remained the #1 request for well over a year now with no sign of players not wanting them anymore.

The addition of Void Elves did not end the request for High Elves, it intensified it to previously unseen levels.

That alone should be evidence that if the Void Elves were designed as a, ‘compromise,’ then they failed spectacularly. Granted that’s only if you’re looking at them AS a compromise, rather than as their own separate race which provides a different narrative and experience from what High Elves would. I think the greatest issue here is, no matter where you stand, enough people see Void Elves as a, ‘Compromise,’ and considering High Elves remain the #1 requested Allied Race addition, this means the Void Elves will be seen by a lot of people as a Failure. They didn’t deliver a compromise.

It’s a curious conundrum. Either Void Elves are a failure (did not achieve compromise) or they’re a success (popular as their own race).

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Good, you don’t want another elf? Nice, because we are asking for a elf race on our faction, not yours.
Want something different for a allied race? Go make a thread about it or support a non-elf allied race thread. There are 2 for the Horde now.

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i just dont get how people pretend the scourge never invaded quelthalas and killed 90% of their population and prompted the name change from high elf to BLOOD ELF. yes some BLOOD ELVES already established well within the alliance chose to stay and not join the horde. im sorry blizzard didnt implement the choice for blood elves to choose a faction like pandas but the fact is the majority of high elves joined the horde. its science :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Darn those pesky lore facts.

Void Elves are a success. The numbers prove it.

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If you want to live in denial thats entirely up to you. I have nothing to come to terms with though.

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I just dont get how people pretend that there aren’t High Elves who never took the name of Blood Elf and didn’t followed Kael’thas path.

Thanks for recognizing the existence of the High Elves on the Alliance, those we are asking for to be playable, High Elves, this is how they are named and listed on any cannon source, mainly the game itself.

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We went over this already… you’re just being obtuse.

No one is arguing that, as an allied race, Void Elves are a success.

But as a way to appease those asking for High Elves, Void Elves are an abject FAILURE, and no amount of word sophistry will change that.

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I never said you physically couldn’t im saying you wont get them even though you do. The reality as i see it is the dice were rolled and it came up snake eyes. Maybe a lighter Alleria colored Void Elf, since Blood Elves have a light skin tone but to get the physical name “high elf” no bueno.

As a race? Certainly.
As a compromise for High Elves? No.

As a compromise, High Elves are a failure. The numbers and even acknowledgement by the Developers that High Elves are a community favorite request are the evidence that Void Elves fail as a compromise for High Elves.

Personally I don’t see them as a compromise. They’re too different for that. I mean, they’re former Blood Elves. It’s clear they’re meant to have little to do with High Elves as far as creation/lore/aesthetic goes.

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Why is Allied race Highlighted? Nvm i’ve spent too much time here. See ya in like a month.

yes if you disregard the scourge invasion and that they decided to call themselves BLOOD ELVES hence forth. are u srs? if you changed the discussion to blood elves for all it would make sense :thinking:

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Seriously, go support other allied races threads, they like support. Allied race groups are amazing and essencial to keep the community alive and invested in the game, trying to dismantle them is useless and almost malicious.

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The High Elves that are in the Alliance never called themselves Blood Elves.

All established groups of High Elves never left the Alliance after the Second War because they did not agree with the isolationist mentality of Silvermoon and chose to stay with their Friends and Allies.

This why you still have Elfe units in Warcraft 3 and it was expanded upon several times in WoW.

High Elves are not Blood Elves. They are not part of the Blood Elf or Horde Identity.

They are a separate Alliance group with completely different ideals and culture.

Only if you ignore the actual lore of the High Elves. It’s like you don’t even know it.

High Elves never called themselves Blood Elves. This has nothing to do with Blood Elves other then they are related groups like Void Elves.

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You need to disregard the game itself now to make your claim make sense.
When i said Alliance High Elves i mean those who aren’t Blood Elves. Not every single High Elf in wow universe was in Quel’thalas when it felt to the scourge, and even after many refused to take the name of Sin’dorei. Example? Grand Magus Telestra.
The Silver Covenant is a factions of High Elves dedicated to prevent the Blood Elves themselves to be allowed to enter on Dalaran. If they were the same they wouldn’t hate each other or negate entry to another.
Every single Blood and High Elf knows the difference, and you with all the information in front of you ready to be read and discovered cannot understand it.

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You should learn the facts before you come here trying to teach lore to us.

Even the blood elf leaders treat the high elves as a separate entity. Only you are stubborn enough to refuse that.

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you contradict yourself here. then where did they come from? did they just magically appear one day

that doesnt mean they arent the same race(blood elf). just because some established blood elves didnt want to sever their allince ties and leave doesnt somehow not make them blood elves. changing the discussion to blood elves for all and ability to choose faction like pandas would garner much more support for your cause. remember the key word in allied races is RACE. blood elves that remained with the alliance arent a NEW RACE. ty

Yeah sure…

Lightforged Draenei
Highmountain Tauren
Void Elves
Dark Iron Dwarves
Ma’ghar Orcs
Kul’Tiran Humans
Zandalari Trolls

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