The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

I wouldn’t call it good-will. Just that, despite whatever he thinks of the High Elves, they are still Children of Quel’thalas.

I think his query as to why an exile has returned is a reasonable one. It isn’t black and white, and that’s why I like him.

1 Like

Apparently it doesn’t make sense considering how the Blood Elves keep splitting into small little factions that don’t want anything to do with the Horde and would rather be friends with Alliance races.

Scryers working together with the Draenei.
Sunreavers seeking to rejoin Dalaran, among Humans, Dwarves, Gnomes, and High Elves.
Void Elves who believe joining the Horde was a mistake.

It’s almost like Lor’themar has an extremely biased and prejudiced view of the Alliance or something. Call it a character flaw if you like, it’s just a pity it drags the rest of Quel’Thalas down.

5 Likes

Lanesh the Steelweaver, Teris Blightsunder, Koltira?

Koltira died for his people and even hearing all the other things could have gone to the Alliance after he was raised yet he decided to return to his people and assume the same name they did, without any of the fel even being a thing.

1 Like

He does. It’s just part of the story, and part of his character. And I think it’s valid and interesting, to be honest.

I dislike when every character is level-headed and unbiased, non-judgmental and has easy emotions.

That’s part of why I left the Alliance. Apart from Jaina and sometimes Genn, nearly everyone in the Alliance seems a beacon of morality and fairness. It got a little boring. I could get started on Tyrande but I’ll not go down that road lol.

There’s no indication he was an exile who returned to Quel’Thalas. The Blue Eyes might even be a glitch.

Is this spelled right? WoWHead and Wowpedia are not coming up with anything for this guy.

Is a Blood Elf as he chose to return to Quel’Thalas. All Thalassian Death Knights are Blood Elves right now. They all chose to return to Quel’Thalas.

I don’t disagree, I just think one can’t state Lor’themar’s intentions and actions mean something when we see something contradictory. It’s fun to speculate, of course, but we can’t really go further.

7 Likes

Fair enough, I suppose I’ve seen enough contextual events to piece that together and short of getting a definitive statement, that’s all we may ever have. :smiley:

1 Like

As an aside, I’m race changing to Nightborne this weekend. :frowning: I’ve been a blood elf for years, and then a void elf when they came around, but I need something new.

Farewell, Thalassian friends. <3

1 Like

Not disagreeing.

No the Farstriders didnt lost importance, the Magisters gained more importance. It’s basically q political party gaining more power.

But it also doesnt change that the Magisters do not have a lot of power outside of Silvermoon, nor receive as much story or presence compared to the Farstriders ot BKs

1 Like

You’ll look good girl. Get your ears on right.

1 Like

Reminder that the Encyclopedia was written in 2006-07, before WotLK, where High Elves became far more commonplace through Dalaran and the Silver Covenant. That’s why the Encyclopedia’s info seems so out of date, as many of their asseverations are contested by the appearance -and recurrence- of the Silver Covenant and the Kirin Tor.

Good luck! I would definitelly change my BE hunter to a Nightborne, pretty much all my favorite armors look better on a NB model, but the only thing holding me back is that I always envisioned her as a short elf and NB just look too tall.

But I feel each day I’m closer to race changing her lol.

1 Like

Thing is any High Elves that died defending Quel’thalas WOULD have become Blood Elves, obviously. Like of course their priority is to protect and remain loyal to QT, since they died for it.

The point of the modern High Elves is that they didn’t prioritize the loyalty to their country above anything else.

2 Likes

It is said in lore that Farstriders are significantly buffer than the Average Blood Elf.

The average High Elf lives more like a Farstrider than the average Blood Elf. Not all of them but the average.

Also the only cannon differences between High/Blood Elves and Night Elves are Height and Skin Color. Builds come from lifestyle.

Silvermoon is also a highly magical city that has Golems, Magic Brooms and Bookshelves, and Slave Labor.

4 Likes

Hard to be too much buffer than that Sin’dorei model though. Those Triceps and delts.

You know, after seeing the state of kul tirans and zandalari in PTR and noticing that Blizzard hasn’t worked on them for six months (no new customization options, still lacking animations such as /dance, most helms not working on them), I gave up on my expectations to see improvement on allied races this patch. If they didn’t work on their main releases until now, no way there was effort wasted on races already released.

I’m also more sure than ever that vulpera (who are in a better condition model-wise than kul tirans) will be playable. When their time comes, Blizzard will quickly finish them.

3 Likes

Even after be told repeatedly that population numbers DON’T MATTER in regards to what can be an allied race, you continue to cling to this as some sort of reason that Alliance High Elves can’t be playable. I just don’t get why the point that population is irrelevant doesn’t seem to stick with you.

No matter how “near extinct” the High Elves may or may not be, they most certainly have a significantly bigger population than Void Elves. And if Void Elves can be an allied race, any handful of a race can be.

17 Likes

I think they are just months ahead of whatever they are releasing presently. So they have shifted their workload onto the next AR in line. They could even be two ARs ahead for all we know.

To me, it shows it’s better to wait (as in be unsubbed) until the feature you know is coming gets added in, IF there’s nothing else that someone finds fun in the game right now.

Like for instance if someone really wanted to make a KT/ZD and doesn’t feel like doing anything else, then best take a break till they’re in because we don’t know when exactly they’re coming.

February or March now doesn’t seem that silly of a reality for em anymore.

I mean, I get AR are prestigious races but I do also understand how frustrating it can be when you want to do things in game as a specific character and cannot.

Like for me, I want to experience much more of the Horde side of things as a Zandalari T_T but the wait is so long.

3 Likes

Because you telling me that doesn’t erase that Blizzard has told me otherwise?

Especially when your argument rests on conjecture. “Well x race exists, so obviously it doesn’t matter.”

Each race is different. Each race has a different past, present and future. If Blizzard decrees that their reasoning for not adding playable High Elves is population, and then they add a race that literally only has ten known characters in existence, that does not change that for High Elves, their low population matters in some regard to the storytellers of this universe.

You can question it, but you cannot say that population is irrelevant when we’ve explicitly been told otherwise simply because of what you, as a player, perceive to be a truth in the lore.

2 Likes

Because Blizzard isn’t consistent and backpedals on their words frequently. Because lore is not very coherent and is often change, negating old established canon. Because you are using things from over a decade ago that have been negated by newer content. Because Blizzard’s decisions aren’t set in stone and can change over the years.

7 Likes

I don’t dispute that, but it isn’t a basis for any form of productive or even reasonable conversation.

“What if they change it like they’ve changed other things in the past?”

Sure, what if they do?

1 Like