The Unofficial High Elf Discussion Megathread

It likely has something to do with the fact they evolved because of the well of eternity which was a font of pure arcane energy.

Their participation as part of the Horde is proof that Lorā€™themarā€™s regime is still oppressive and not representative of the Thalassian people. If anything, Blizzard has only strengthened the sense of devious and underhanded control that Blood Elf leaders are required to maintain over their unfortunate populace. What little Void Elf lore actually exists reinforces, through Magister Umbric, the idea that Silvermoonā€™s participation as part of the Horde is (and always has been) tenuous at best.

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You know, I gotta say the argument about Alleria being a Void Elf is silly, because it rests on WoWā€™s silly need to create biological distinctions.

ā€œVoid Elvesā€ are denominated as a new race because they look different, and they look different because the devs wanted them to. They are literally just blood elves that went through a ā€œcosmic change.ā€ WoWā€™s determination of ā€œraceā€ is silly, because by our own parameters, you canā€™t switch races.

At best, each group can come up with their own self determination given different factors and variables.

Then what are the parameters for Void Elves? Maybe being infused by the void, regardless of origin? Who knows. But to even pretend there is weigth to the notion VEā€™s are a ā€œraceā€ in a biological sense is justā€¦ weird.

Alleria is a Void Elf, yes, but as much as Void Elves are still Blood Elves, because at the end of the day, a cosmic incident doesnā€™t change your race, not if it makes you look different like most VEā€™s, nor if it only gives you Void Powers yet still look like a regular High Elf.

Honestly, the classification of Void Elves as a ā€œraceā€ only further shows how arbitrary its definition is in WoW.

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As an aside:

Yay! I finally got the 7th legion chest piece for my warrior! I finished my Mog!!

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Why? Is it off topic? There are a lot of off topic posts in this thread.

Lorā€™themar is still Regent Lord supported exclusively by three military branches (Farstriders, Blood Knights, Magisters) without any democratic form of council to counter his power. This same regimen was known for practicing censure and exile of dissenting voices.

Thatā€™s fascism in a nutshell.

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Clearly the night elven participation in the Alliance is oppressive on behalf of leadership and not representative of the people.

Look what happened: Alliance abandoned them, home got burnt to the ground, their leaders have to undergo unstable rituals for power for survival.

Those Forsaken night elves must be the right idea

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They were a monarchy.

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They were a monarchy with a parliament before the Scourge. The parliament is no more, the power fell into the hands of Lorā€™themar while the last prince was away. The prince is dead (and, if we were to delve into details, Lorā€™themar betrayed him, even if for the greater good).

Lorā€™themar is no king. Thereā€™s no more parliament. This is essentally a military totalitarist regimen now.

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After the prince was killed the Arcane Constructs started saying Lorā€™themar propaganda instead of Kaelā€™thas propaganda.

I believe they also changed the dialogue of the two who are mind controlled to be against Lorā€™themar and mention the princes betrayal.

Then we have the exile of the Void Elves showing they are still sending people to their deaths in Ghostlands.

So itā€™s safe to say that nothing has changed.

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Cross your fingers!
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/8-1-5-ptr-developers-notes/68156

Iā€™d say a lot of pressure that was causing conflict within Quelā€™thalas has gone, so dissenting voices are less common now and everything feels more ā€œnormalā€. But the regimen itself is still totalitarist, and, should new social pressures arise, it will be forced again to keep everything under control.

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Thatā€™s typical of an interregnum government, because the other alternative is chaos and collapse.

So are you advocating the collapse of Silvermoon government and consistent infighting for some party to take control?

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Thatā€™s been a loooong interregnum.
I wonder when Lorā€™themar will define the new power structure for the nation and surrender his position.

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Not really, there have been historical interregnums that last long.

Doesnā€™t change the fact that Lorā€™themar is a dictator in the interim.

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Would you rather have constant civil wars and fighting?

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It was a Ctrl+ F find and replace Kael for Lorā€™themar. It was lazy and barely an update and also back in Cata era.

I donā€™t see exiling Blood Elves who were delving into clearly dangerous Void stuff clearly threatening to the Sunwell as any sort of evidence they are totalitarian. They are simply removing threats to their homeland. Especially after losing the Sunwell once already, itā€™s not surprising.

Correct me if Iā€™m wrong, but we donā€™t see any kind of spill over of a ā€œtotalitarian regimeā€ into any of the more current day quests or events, especially MoP to now, involving Blood Elves. Our most recent major move was liberating Suramar and inviting them to Silvermoon, and eventually to the greater Horde.

Youā€™re all free to blow hot air about how villianous you think the Blood Elves still are. Doesnā€™t make it any form of true.

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Iā€™m stating the obvious, undeniable truth. If that bothers you, feel free to justify it however you want, but it is what it is.

Itā€™s not like we ever got any insight into the day-to-day of Quelā€™thalas ever since. All we have seen since then are military efforts. But the regimen is what it is. It holds absolute power and thereā€™s nothing to keep it in check.

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Why are you justifying civil war and more killings?

You do realize thatā€™s the legacy of interregnum periods right?

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History is written by the victor.

The blood spilled of those slain is either villified or swept under the rug. Generations that live after may be thankful for the results of the slaughter, but itā€™s no confort for those who suffered it.

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