Is it possible that Sylvanas is actually working with the Dreadlords? and her and Denathrius had a arrangement outside of the Jailer? is that why she was surprised to hear that the Jailer had no interest in saving Denathrius because that put a wrench in her plans? I’m just spit balling here. But there’s something about this encrypted text that I find interesting.
Detheroc, if you fail us again I will personally flay you. When Mal’ganis springs his trap, you are responsible for recovering the asset.
Do. Not. Fail. Me.
Maybe she took matters into her own hands to save Denathrius. Let’s unpack this. Detheroc’s failure was in Legion. He was tasked with infiltrating’s the Rogue Order Hall and killing the Uncrowned. His second task was impersonating Shaw and lying to Anduin about the Horde to start a Faction War. Prior to burning Teldrassil Sylvanas’s main goal was to capture Stormwind, so it seems like she was part of the Dreadlords plans. We know this because of Varimathras.
Varimathras in Legion tried to tell us that Sylvanas was working with the Dreadlords. He also tried to warn us about the Jailer.
Varimathras: So, your Alliance still endures. Longer than I expected, though she has already planted the seeds of its downfall. She is patient, that one.
Varimathras: When your thrones run red with betrayal… when your holy places burn and the shattered mask hangs above your hearth… only then you will know. And it will be too late.
Varimathras: It matters not. You are blind to the true darkness closing in around you.
Varimathras: So, she found me at last. Sent her underlings to finish the job.
Varimathras: Tell me, when she seized your throne of hides and bones, was your allegiance forced? No… I’d wager you surrendered it willingly… or were convinced you did.
Varimathras: It matters not. You are blind to the darkness in your midst.
What I find to be a clue is when Sathrovarr says “I’ve… never… been on the losing… side.” it reminded me of Xal’atath’s comment about Varimathras. If you were a shadow priest wielding Xal’atath in the Varimathras fight you got special dialogue It was Detheroc’s failure that made Sylvanas take his failed task into her own hands and that’s why she burnt Teldrassil personally. There were only two failed Dreadlord plots in Legion, Detheroc and Kathra’natir. (although in Hindsight Kathra’natir was likely not a failed plot because he was exactly where he needed to be: Dalaran with the object he was trying to steal, the Nightborne Soulstone) Balnazzar, Lothraxxion and Tichondrius succeeded. (Kathra’natir is still locked in Dalaran as far as we know, but since Sylvanas was working with Aethas in BfA and Aethas was the only one who knew about Kathra’natir being locked in the Nightborne Soulstone, Kathra’natir’s fate is still up in the air, but it’s likely that Aethas, if he’s part of this plan, let him out and let him escape with the Soulstone. The other person could be Millhouse too, since Millhouse wanted the Soulstone because he wanted to save his father who is locked in a prison out in the Twisting Nether. < this knowledge was found in the Mage Order hall by reading books and scrolls left around the Library, this plot is likely tied to De Other Side because Millhouse borrowed some of Bwonsamdi’s juju recently and we don’t know why, it was something related to his plot in Legion.)
What a disappointment. He squandered his potential by backing the wrong side.
It was Varimathras who was the traitor mentioned in the Infiltration preface. Which means that Lothraxxion is still loyal to Denathrius and the other Dreadlords. But that also means that Xal’athath was working with the Dreadlords as well. She has another quote of interest after we defeat Kil’Jaeden and the Legion suggesting that she wanted Sargeras to stab the planet, Sargeras stabbed the planet to try and save us from the Jailer (phew this plot is complicated and has too many strings)
I can feel the pulse of your world quickening. Soon, all will be drenched in its life blood.
Xal’atath goes on to partner with Sylvanas in BfA, even putting her in contact with Azshara. Though it’s N’Zoth who claims to have set up this meeting, and used Zul the Prophet as a pawn to set this meeting up. (Zul has history with the jailer, because of Jin’do the Godbreaker and hints that Zul was personally responsible for the mess at Zul’Gurub, where Jin’do first tried to bring the Jailer into our world. Zul also hints in the Welcome to Zandalar cinematic that Sylvanas isn’t the one in control, the Jailer is. Zul was discarded for siding with the Jailer so the Jailer is not the winning team.
Sylvanas is just one cog in a big machine. N’zoth fortold her breaking the Helm and not even the jailer thought she would do that even with the Jailer in his head. We Ride Forth was merely the story that set up that the Jailer doesn’t fully trust Sylvanas, and was using Bolvar as a failsafe if Sylvanas was able to succeed in enslaving the Val’kyr.
The real question I guess is why all of these super villians are teaming up to ensure the Jailer wins, while simultaneously playing 4d chess against him? It’s clear that for some reason they all think this side (which I’m now calling N’Zoths “Dream Team”) is the “winning side” That could just be the motivation as to why Sylvanas would be there, she’s currently obsessed with victory. It’s spelled out in Shadows Rising that Sylvanas she has “utter contempt” for the idea of failure.
And… who says the following all the time.
Do. Not.Fail. Me.
I read this quote in Sylvanas’s voice because it’s so ingrained in my brain as a Forsaken player, It’s her. She’s the one threatening Detheroc because he failed and she had to clean up his mess.
She ordered the Dreadlords to retrieve Denathrius because her true partnership is with him, not the Jailer.