Probably their main who ran a couple of GDKPs to gear up his alt
Yep.
Same as I do for even lower scale stuff. My 80âs make gold to half butt twink an alt for easier leveling.
An 80 makes 400g in a quest spam feastâŚI saw some nice gear for the leveler. 200G for a few items? Well, at least I was still 200g net profit.
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Its time too shall come to pass.
itâs literally wrath classic
it was literally TBC classic
you mean in vanilla classic
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Typical bs anti gdkp post. Yes there are gold buyers in GDKP. They are the execption though. You do not have players dropping gold cap in every run. it is rare. Do you think players donât cheat in other areas of the game? You didnât like that players that had more time than you were able to get gear by using what they earned that you couldnât.
even worse, i doubt you even ran gdkp. if you have, you could be considered a liar for spreading this false nonsense. But i donât think you have. and that means you are just another busy body karen that cant stand that other players are doing something you donât want to do.
You are not in competition with other players in PVE. They could have every tier piece on day one of a new raid and it has ZERO pay to win advantage over you. So quit your whining and move on.
This is unpopular but Iâd argue GDKP is one of the most fair loot systems in Classic.
A lot of players like myself who got screwed over by guild raids, GDKP has been a blessing for me because at least I know how I can get items and what itâll take or cost me to get said items.
I have never gotten near phase BIS EVER in any of my guild raids, if I was up for a BIS item especially later in the phase, leadership would opt to give those items to newer raiders since I was already âgearedâ in-comparison. It felt like a slap in the face because I never missed a raid ever and leadership just kept having to band aid the raid.
When I went to GDKP and my GDKP characters were more geared than my guild character, I knew something felt wrong.
I run the largest GDKP discord on Benediction and we have almost 12k users and over 100 raids. If this loot system was unfair than I donât think GDKPs wouldnât be so popular.
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Ok Classic is just a phrasing My point is they are not the same game So okay The only thing Unless you really want to get really really nit picky Like Health and mana.
Wrath tbc and Vanilla Are completely different just because Itâs called wrath Classic Doesnât mean that itâs anything or plays anything like Vanilla classic did.
Thay are Different Aside from The word classic wrath Classic Does not play Or work anything like Vanilla did.
The way classes play Itemization Balance pvp and pve are all Different Just because itâs called wrath Classic or tbc and cata Doesnât mean it Theyâre the same game They are not.
And even if you want to go that route Weâre not playing original wrath Not the way the player base plays it Or the changes that blizzard has made to it.
So even based on that wrath is not Vanilla/ Classic Thatâs the point iâm trying to make but Clearly you missed that.
Its the most popular for many reasons, incentive to stay til the end, everyone wins at the end, its structured almost entirely like guild runs, they far more often than not will full clear at a higher rate and faster than the other loot system, and yes some people like to buy gold and participate in them. So yeah, many positives, one con.
It really doesnt matter what your custom definition of classic is. Classic is the retro series of World of Warcraft expansions, so yes, it is Classic.
Ok 1 gdkps Incentivised gold Buying You canât deny that And yes Youâre not wrong on The stance that gdkps Have upsides to them.
But the point iâm trying to make is People are so angry about the token Saying that oh now the games pay to wen People have been seen ridiculous gold amounts being thrown around in gdkps Since the end of Vanilla.
So Weather be a good luke system or not Does it incentivize RMT ? Yes It does My other problem with it is Itâs the best for both now Itâs the best way to gear up and The best way to farm gold.
There is no other gold farm Where you can leave it walking away with 10k + Is making all other types of pugs Less incentivised to make even guild runs.
So what iâm saying is Under that stance why is the wow Token bad ? For The player Base we have Now?
People say Thatâs a wow token Adds a monitory value To your time in each item Well hereâs my question How do you third party goldseller sights not do the same thing ?
As far as classic Most of the time when people think of classic they think of 2019 aka Vanilla And wrath in not Vanilla on top of that Things are very different now.
I mean letâs be honest The wrath Weâre playing now is not the same wrath as in 2008 Not just because Of the player base but because of the changes blizzard has made.
Rdf Makes sense Four wrath not Vanilla And yes itâs a Retro or older version of the game have you want to call it But the reality is we donât play it like that.
Is that the truth or everyone Well now But itâs just like gdkps Most people do them just like Most people donât talk in dungeons.
Youâre more likely to make friends in a pug raid then Dungeon And thatâs just the truth Those are the points iâm trying to make.
You canât make wrath Vanilla It doesnât work Plain and simple And I still see the game would be a lot better off with rdf.
Everything associated with gold incentivizes gold buying.
Well if youâre wanting to get rid of GDKP because it incentivizes buying gold then youâre in support of getting rid of:
AH
Arena
Crafting professions
Fast flying
The dalaran ring
The tundra mammoth
Player trading in general.
Ok 1 Aside from being boosted or Carried How is Does arena Incentivize gold bind ?
If you look at my first post I did say Thereâs no reason for a player to have over 20k On them for Any other reason then gdkps Because thatâs literally the most expensive thing.
Because letâs just break this down right
1 Fast flying 5k
2 ah If weâre talking raid consumes It can vary on your server and wat your doing but On average Maybe 500g And thatâs if youâre wiping a lot.
3 Lovely and professions Again this does vary on yours Server But estimately Weâll go with engineering Because to my knowledge itâs the most expensive one 2k-3k.
4 The ring And thatâs if People are even going to buy it Because from what Iâve seen it doesnât really even look that worth it. But this does depend on your speck and what class are playing so 8k
5 boes If you have a fresh level eighty again this does depend On what class inspect but I donât think iâm going too far and saying 10k Roughly.
6 And obviously thereâs The mammoth mount at 20k
Ok so 5k + 500 + 5k + 8k +10 +20k = 480500 g so ya Aside from gdkps you need over 20k +character why ?
And even 500g and 5k Four professions If youâre buying everything is on the high end And thatâs if youâre Not farming anything yourself.
Almost everything else on that list can be accomplished By doing dailyâs hek some of that can be accomplished by just well leveling so ya.
We can shift the goal posts as much as you want 
But on a serious note - you want gdkp gone because it incentivizes RMT and the acquisition of that gear doesnt really impact you because outside of the race there really is no competition in PVE.
Arena on the other hand, glad spots are being taken from legitimate players because of boosts and pilots. Its not even a comparison.
Ask that to someone who 6 months into WOTLK is buying tokens to afford fast flying.
It was never ok. There was at least a naive belief that Blizard was actually trying and failing.
Oh, and you also have to get rid of guilds because they do paid carries. Almost forgot.
Anyone know offhand how much Mims head is going for on their server?
Ok 1 I never said I wanted gdkps gon But what I am saying Why are people so mad about the Token When people have been doing something that does incentivize gold bind for well years at this point.
And it kind of does apply to me for the record If I want to do a pug rate the likelihood That itâs not a gdkp Is going to get slimmer and slimmer.
So I would ask how does it not Do I personally like them no because insentivises rmt Do I hate them in the game no.
I just wish it was in the best thing for everything thatâs all iâm saying And iâm also saying if gdkps are ok why is The token bad ?
And even if you didnât By gold The reality isnât the problem with one thing being the best for everything It expands everything else.
For example If you make money off the auction House You donât know Or care Is that gold bought or not Right.
The difference is with a gdkp We go from a reasonable amount you could make doing dailies too A ridiculous amount no other gold farm can produce.
I mean let me ask this If tomorrow blizzard just says okay The gold granted from quests And dailyâs is now increased by 50% Would that be a bad change I donât think so.
Itâs the same thing as the Token Especially at the mounts that itâs set at 6-5k At most thatâs going to be your startup money to get into a gdkp.
What I am saying is I just wish there is an alternative Just something that doesnât encourage rmt Because as I said Outside of gdkps Why do you need more than 20k at 1 Time ?.
You should be happy with that. The other loot systems suck.
People have been farming gold for going on 4 years but ok.
You should hope that they delete gold from existing cause thats the only way you wont have incentivized RMT in the game.
Ok Yeah but in one gdkp Depending on the payout You can acquire more than Those four years of gold farming.
I donât agree Iâm completely okay with Soft reserve In fact most of the pugs I did in Vanilla and tbc wer that.
Yes Thereâs always going to be a level of rmt Thereâs rmt in df But the difference is It doesnât affect Nearly the amount of players as it does in wrath.
And for the record Write the top in my head I can think of an alternative lute system too gdkps In fact I think Iâll make a post about that.
Nah, not even close.
To expand on this - A 5 million gold pot which would be an outlier in WOTLK GDKPs would be a payout of 200,000g. There were mages with 200,000g in Vanilla Classic.
One of our mages here that posts frequently had 50,000g just from selling mana potions.
To put it bluntly, there are A LOT of people that play this game that simply suck at making gold.
Soft reserve sucks because most of the time the group doesnt complete the raid in one night (gl trying to get all 25 people to show up for the continuation) and people leave when the boss doesnt drop what they SRâd.
I have felt 0 impact from people RMTing in this game. You could be on my server and buy 10,000,000 gold today and I wouldnt even know about it, much less care.
Please brother, put a little effort into your postings.
No. Wrath is retail WoWâs second expansion. It was never Classic.