The times they are a changin...regarding Duel Tournaments for cash prizes in WoW

I’m not sorry shift.

Same reason I still have mine? How is this streamer privilege, exactly? Most suspensions aren’t permanent.

he got a streamer beta invite - whether he went to Irvine or not I have no idea - but he most certainly got into the Beta when he was against Nostalrius and Vanilla/Classic in the first place

#StreamerPriviledge

Except they were, which seems to be the issue you are not understanding. Spamming and trolling and harassment, etc.

That speaks more about you than it does me. It’s my room, not theirs. You flee from your own room because someone annoyed you.

Being an adult, I tell people how to deal with problems, you tell them to run away.

As you say you don’t care, they didn’t kill the guy. He couldn’t be killed. He was an unflagged level 1.

exactly - the lolretbull quite literally did NOTHING to test stuff out on the beta - and actually gave out lies and misinformation on his streams - until my Paladin theory crafting friends ridiculed him into getting off his butt to actually do something

lo and behold, all of his “knowledge” that he gave to his viewers was wrong and ours were proven correct

I will say that I hope you get into the Beta, been following the discord for awhile, and hope you get to work out your theorycrafting. We may not agree on what makes the community.

lol they only want the cash cow shills coming through from their subs/donations…

dude, taking down entire servers compared to sitting on a totem during a cash prize streamer dueling tournament?!?!?

is that really the hill you wanna die on?

Spamming, maybe. Hard to punish an individual for spamming. His message is but one out of hundreds.

Trolling isn’t a rule that I’m aware of, at least not in-game. And protesting that a realm is down is not harassment.

Hahaha. You’re right about that.

Mostly because I’m not gonna sit in the stench when I can just leave temporarily, wait til they’re gone, then come back once the air is fresh.

I’m not someone who would sit in trade chat and complain that people are spamming trade chat.

Being able to leave a situation that annoys you is part of being an adult. Why would you continue to subject yourself to something you don’t like?

Yes, you can ignore an individual, but in the case you described, why would you sit there trying to ignore thousands of people instead of just leaving the channel? Forget being an adult for a moment; be smart.

You’re filling up your ignore list with people who will delete that character and likely never log back onto it.

Then what is the issue, exactly?

He was standing nearby and being targeted by accident or something? Seems like a silly reason to ban someone.

What are you even talking about? You’ve lost the plot, dude.

no, I won’t be joining the beta - requiring an active sub for a “chance” to get an invite was a bridge to far for my liking - especially seeing all the retail streamers get in like that Hearthstone chic lol

but yes, my Paladin theory crafting friends and I are very much looking forward to continue to test/flush the SPELLADIN meta to all its worth as a few of the guys did get into the beta and so we would like to see the level cap raised in order to continue our work

swifty was originally BANNED in 2011 for taking down multiple servers with his Twitch stream crowd - it’s the video I posted earlier but here it is again for “special” people like you…

but because he was an lol streamer/influencer, he was basically given a mulligan and given his account back a day or two later

compared to Trollgodx who was either banned or ported to another zone for sitting on a totem during a cash prize streamer dueling tournament on the beta the other day

now class, can you tell me which offence was worse in scale and impact?

He was not against Vanilla or Classic, not sure if you are referencing that video, because that is not evidence of being ‘against’ it, I covered that above.
Do you have videos , posts or something that is him actually saying he does not want legacy servers, and now not wanting Classic servers?

as for Nost, are your referencing the video you linked? The most I got from that is him questioning how much you can really get from something is free, as you cannot get reliable numbers, the best you can do is see where the demand lies, which is how Nost really helped.

I am not a fan of Nost either honestly, but I am a fan of Vanilla, unless I am mistaken I don’t think any of the streamers, or most most of who is complaining the most has played as long as I have, and I got in at the same time as the streamers, so them being a streamer did not get them into beta over me, or before me.

Too many people view the beta as early access to play, pretty sure this does not apply to you, but a lot of who are complaining it would apply to.

Because it’s still not acceptable behavior. Leaving does nothing except allow people to continue to do whatever it is that they are doing. That’s their perogative, but it’s not mine. Again, they would make reporting them pretty easy now.

You can be an adult, and you can also be smart. You’ve got addons now, you’ve got right-click report. You’ve got tools to handle the situation now. Why would you run away now? Be smart, and be an adult and get a handle your situation.

Like you said, it isn’t Vanilla anymore. You don’t use ignore now. You use right-click report, you use Bad Boy, you use Infinite Ignore the addon.

Disruption is disruption, without a pvp solution to the disruption, and if he got reported by a bunch of people, what was it? 150k people watching? Even if a fraction reported the guy, I’m fairly sure it wasn’t just the people dueling and that would get Blizzard’s attention.

Again, happened at a non-streamed Event that I’m aware of, dozens of people reported someone trying to be disruptive, and they were gone pretty quickly.

And here you are wanting the TOS changed not going to happen. Blizzard also will not write another TOS just for classic as the current one does just fine at covering both.

they could not report him, reporting is disabled in Beta.

https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=43637

Again, don’t take my word for it but those of other Nost players in that thread and then Preach and his fanboi beside him laughing at Nost shutting down

He’s a hypocrite - he wanted nothing more than to protect his income from streaming retail and vanilla/classic was going to be a threat to it. Only once he and other retail streamers realized that retail WoW was complete garbo and that Blizzard was going ahead with Classic - and only then - did they change their tune in order to capitalize on the income potential.

I’m sure someone brought it to the attention of a GM. I’m pretty sure that at least one GM actually watches the streams at work (there’s even a clip of a Blizz GM interacting with a streamer - streamer mused that he hoped he wouldn’t get banned on stream, and the GM mentioned that he wasn’t going to ban said streamer).

why not?

they said they were never going to rerelease Vanilla/Classic and they did…

#YouThinkYouDoButYouDont vs #NoChanges

The 2 , (counting him) that I can think of, did not change their tune as neither was ever soo against it, and one really did not until they actually played it and realized it was fun.

That’s what we WANT, we WANT them to realize it was fun , and want to learn to love it like we do, but instead, because they did not love it the ‘right’ way and also dared to once support Current and Blizzard as well, they simply cannot have a new opinion.

now THAT is hypocritical, we profess how much better the community of Classic is supposed to be, but some feel the need to put ‘requirements’ on the simple act of liking it, even if they were not really a fan before. We should be welcoming, not trying to push people away, that is definitely not something a ‘better’ than current WoW community should be acting.

and duh, something that has 12 years of built up anticipation is currently a bigger deal than the 7th 8th expansion of a 15 year old MMO? Pretty impossible to compete with that.

I guess I have to ask, who are talking about when you say ‘retail’ streamers, , and what will you call them once Classic goes live and is also retail?

well yah im sure that is what happened, definitely a side effect on not having the report option enabled, but honestly I cannot think of a beta I have been involved in with WoW where someone did something that could possibly be reported.

He is right though, you can ask all you want, never know, they could, but I would not hold your breath that they do.

It’s certainly shaping up to be en.